Mocht Wy Move On?

Ik ha hâlden op mei de Trayvon Martin saga fan it begjin ôf. Lykas in protte fan dy Ik seach it nijs dekking, read de artikels, en prate oer it mei freonen. It dominearre iepenbiere petear en lokke in soad nedich diskusje oer race yn Amearika. It ûnsjogge realiteit fan rasisme waard treaun foar ús gesichten, en sels dy't graach beare dat net bestiet waarden twongen om te praten oer it.

Oer in jier letter, Trayvon syn moardner is besocht en fûn net skuldich. Betsjut dat wy moatte bewege op út 'e problemen? Se fûn him ûnskuldich, dus dizze "race saken” moat net wêze as echte as wy tocht se wiene, rjochts? Dat koe net fierder út 'e wierheid. Ik haw gjin bedoeling fan argumint oer de feiten, Trayvon fan karakter, of de útspraak yn dizze tragyske situaasje, mar ik tink wat diskusje moat bliuwe. It proses is oer, mar it petear moat net wêze.

Wêrom de Interest?

Ik wit der binne in protte dy't ôf wêrom't dizze bysûndere proses hat ferovere it omtinken fan safolle. Oaren ôf wêrom't guon swarte minsken binne sa gau te meilijen mei Trayvon Martin, nettsjinsteande it feit dat er hie ûnderwerpen fan syn eigen. Einsluten, net ien fan ús wiene der en wy witte net krekt wat der bard. Wylst dat is wier, Ik fyn mysels emosjoneel ynvestearre yn it hiele ordeal. Ik kin net prate foar elkenien, mar ik kin fertelle jo wêrom't ik fûn mysels meilibjende mei Trayvon en de Martin famylje.

Doe't ik hear oer in jonge swarte tiener walking hûs út de winkel, en de man dy't oannommen hy wie in krimineel foardat witten wat oer him, Ik kin relate. Mooglik beskikke jo net kinne. Miskien jo ha nea folge om yn in ôfdieling winkel troch in feiligens wacht foar gjin reden. ik haw. Miskien jo ha noait hie in handige winkel klerk scream oan jo te ferlitten, stel dat it blackberry op dyn heup is in gun dat jo fan doel te sjitten him mei. ik haw.

Miskien jo ha noait glimke en groete minsken dy haw trochjûn oan 'e strjitte, allinne te hawwe se foarkomme each kontakt, Clutch harren guod, en gau rinne fuort. ik haw. Miskien jo ha nea treaun tsjin in muorre, hâlden ûnder skot, en handcuffed troch plysje (dy't hearre te beskermjen dy) omdat jo "sjen as in fertochte wy sochten.” ik haw (en ik seach neat as dat fertochte). Alle fan dizze ynsidinten binne lytse en gjinien fen hjarren gâns bedrige myn libben. Measte, as net alle, fan myn swarte freonen west hawwe troch ferlykbere situaasjes. En ûntelbere oaren ek úthâlde kinnen ha in soad, folle slimmer.

As jo ​​ha noait meimakke dat soarte fan ding, jo kinne net begripe wêrom't dit gefal libbet sa djip mei ús. Mar doe't ik hear syn ferhaal, Ik hear myn ferhaal. En myn heit syn ferhaal. En myn soan syn ferhaal. Ik ha gjin idee wat der bard nei Mr. Zimmerman makke útgongspunten oer dat jonge minske, mar foar de altercation, der wie neat bûtengewoan oer it ynsidint. It bart alle ien dei.

Profilearring is echt, en it is faak rasiale. Guon minsken tinke se hawwe de jefte fan ûntdekken karakter krekt troch nei in persoan. Krekt as in tsjustere blau unifoarm en badge betsjut wet hanthaveningsbelied, tsjuster hûd en in hoodie betsjut ferbrekker. Gjin konversaasje is bard, mar in imazjinêre rap sheet wurdt taheakke. Violent karakter wurdt oannommen. Se tinke oer it gangster ôfbylding se seagen op tv, of it gefaar harren âlden fertelden se oer, of de skriklike misdie se tsjûgen - en se pleats allegear fan dy bagaazje op in persoan se ha nea sels moete. We nea hawwe it rjocht om te tekenjen unwarranted konklúzjes oer in person- ek as se blike te wêzen oerstjûr.

Dizze soarten fan útgongspunten binne walgelijk en falsk. God makke alle minsken yn syn byld mei wearde en wurdich. Mar allegearre fan ús binne sûndich en net om it werjaan fan Gods byld as wy moat. Alle single ien fan ús kin bikeare fen ús sûnden, fertrouwen Kristus, en makke wurde rjocht troch ús Skepper. Mar rasisme picks en kiest hokker minsken dy wierheden tapst wurde op. rasisme seit, "Ik bin weardefol en goed, en al fan dy minsken binne goddeleazen.”

Dit prideful opstân tsjin God en ferset tsjin syn Evangeelje wêze moatte fan belang oan Gods folk. Wy moatte net negearje it, en wy moatte net bang te pakken is. De Goede nijs is dat Jezus kaam te stjerren foar sawol rasistyske en net-rasistyske sûnders. Eardere fijannen kinne wurden freonen yn Him, en profitearje fan de eksakte deselde genede. Wa sil step up, adres dizze dei, en ferkundigje de wierheid? Ofsto al of net jo tinke ras is in faktor yn dit gefal, jo kinne net ûntkenne dat ras is in faktor yn it libben fan sa folle fan ús alle dagen.

Wat dogge wy no?

Sa hoe moatte wy reagearje? Miskien moatte wy bewege op yn ien sin. Miskien wy moatte ophâlde argumint oer it guod wy binne net wis oer. Wy witte net alle ien detail fan dy nachts; oars wy soenen hawwe neamd as tsjûgen. En oft of net wy like de útspraak, it is út ús hannen.

Miskien wy moatte ophâlde argumint, en begjinne bidden. Bid foar de famyljes. Bid dat God soe bliuwe Syn belofte te stjoeren Syn Soan te bringen perfekt gerjochtichheid. De Hear hat net nedich abbekaten te pleitsjen harren gefallen, en Hy hat net nedich bewiis presintearre. Hy hat gjin ferlet fan jurors te jaan Him harren perspektyf. Hy sjocht alles, wit alles, en rjochters mei folslein rjocht.

Mar yn in oare betsjutting, wy meast seker net bewege op. Wy moatte net ophâlde praten oer it rasisme dat noch võru kalev yn ús wrâld. As jo ​​ha belibbe it, helpe dyjingen dy't net belibbe it te begripen. Wês geduld mei dyn freonen as se rûch siikje te begripe wat jo ha gien troch. En freegje net bewize se rjocht troch ferfoljen negative stereotypen. Trust Kristus, en bid God soe mold jo karakter te sjen mear as syn.

As jo ​​ha noait west op de ûntfangende ein fan rasisme, meilijen mei dyjingen dy't. Lês oer harren ûnderfinings. Jo kinne gjin leafde immen as jo negeare of belittle harren soargen. Please nea oannimme dat minsken wurde krekt klagen en spylje de 'race kaart.” Siikje te begripen se, en earbiedigje it feit dat guon fan ús libje yn ferskillende werklikheden en hawwe te fernearen ferskate kearen besykje.

Wat jim ek dogge, gewoan net ophâlde prate oer it.

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  1. jonathansampsonAntwurdzje

    T.L., It spyt my dat jo ha west troch wat rûge guod, mar dit bysûndere gefal wie net in delslach fan rasisme yn Amearika. George wie net iens wis fan Trayvon syn ras oant letter yn 'e 911 oprop, doe't Trayvon begûn rinnen nei syn rjochting. Trayvon waard besjoen as fertocht, om't wy wie it rinnen tusken en efter appartemint gebouwen, ferskynt oan te sykjen yn finsters. Remember, dizze mienskip hat in string fan break-ins en ynbraken. Dêrom Trayvon seach fertocht. Hie er al rinnen op 'e stoepe yn it ljocht fan de lokale strjitte-lampen, George soe net hawwe batted each.

    Ik fiel my ferskriklik dat in jonge man ferstoar; mar ik fiel noch mear ferskriklik troch alles dat hat folge as in gefolch fan dat gefal wurdt ôfskildere as in eksimplaar fan rasisme. Fiif swarte Teens yn Baltimore holden in Hispanics man ûnder skot juster en sloegen him “foar Trayvon.” LAPD hawwe it beantwurdzjen fan lytse reboelje sûnt de útspraak fan net skuldich kamen yn. Dit fake rasisme wurdt walgelijk, en it is hurting minsken, net helpen harren.

    Wat bothers my ek is dat dit guod net krekt bart oan swarte minsken. Ik behannele waard hiel slim troch myn swarte leeftydsgenoaten yn it midden skoalle. Stroffele down Wander, narre, en bispot. Krekt in pear moanne ferlyn ik besocht in all-swart-male kolleezje kampus dêr't ik wie frijwillige ynset foar Black Girls Code. Krekt besiket te rinnen nei myn auto ik wie moete mei misledigingen en bedrigingen út kolleezje jonges dy't net tinke Ik hearde op harren campus.

    In mem krekt in pear moanne lyn hjir yn Georgia waard benadere troch in 17 year old en 14 jier âld (wer, beide swart) at 9am dy't skeat har yn 'e skonk, en hjar 13 moanne âlde poppe yn it gesicht. Dat soe wêze wêrom't minsken Freak út by tiden. Hoe is it de klean? Koe it no it hip hop kultuer dat Freaks folk út? Eventueel. (Tryst as wier, mar begryplik).

    Wat it probleem is, Ik hoopje en bid foar in oplossing dat wil helpt ús rêden fan it libben fan ús jonge bern, nettsjinsteande harren ras. It spyt my wer dat jo ha west troch wat rûge tiden, mar wêrtroch't dit Trayvon / Zimmerman gefal oer ras net helpe ús begryp, It Wolken it.

    • YOURSTRULYAntwurdzje

      Excellent punt en goed Put. Rasisme hat oergong en is wurden in hiele nije ding “profilearring” en bart tusken minsken dy't beskôgje harsels te wêzen oars. De fint yn in pak en it famke yn in Thong ect… profilearring is alles hinne en dreech te stray út, Net mear is it beheind ta de kleur fan dejingen skin. Hawwe wy weagje prate fan oare mear kwea-aardichste ynterrasiale gewelddiedich misdriuwen. Wêrom dizze iene? Wy kinne allinnich hoopje dat rasisme wurdt net fierder as in scapegoat en minsken kinne sels oant wat binne mear insecurities yn harsels en akseptearje inoar. Profilearring is tryst, mar sels Trayvon profilearre “wite crackers”. Sa lit nim gjin kanten, mar sjogge alle hoeken. Beyond in ridlike twifel, net skuldich.

    • Marvin Lee McManusAntwurdzje

      Wat bothers my is dat wy binne sa gau leauwe de leagens George Zimmerman ferteld oer hoe't Trayvon Martin socht yn 'e ruten fan dizze wenten yn dizze mienskip. Wer, net ien fan ús wiene der mar God seach de hiele besiking en it moat wêze de ferklearring dêrfoar foar Him en Him allinne. Wat irks my is it feit dat wy moatte bliuwe gean hinne en wer mei dit gehiel wat oer dizze swarte persoan begean fan dizze misdie tsjin dizze wyt persoan, mar neat wie dien. Dat is net produktyf op alle. Ik hear uterste need oer boargerrjochten aktivisten getting belutsen en meitsjen dit oer ras, wy allegear spylje in part. Ik submit oan jimme, dat jimme dei moat wêze mei it nijs media en net boargerrjochten aktivisten of oaren, dy't beseffe dat ras spile in gruttere rol dan wurdt talitten. Do sjochst, de media lege meitsjen fan kontroverse as it fan goed foar harren ratings. Lêste kear as ik kontrolearre, grutte media uitlaten wienen net eigendom fan minderheden. It is de leafde fan jild, dat is de woartel fan alle kwea. Wannear't wy as minsken binne mear dwaande mei it meitsjen fan winst yn tsjinstelling ta it kwea dat wy thrust op de maatskippij, der is in grut probleem mei dy. Ik bin grutsk op om te sizzen dat ik bin in berne opnij bern fan God. Dat is net te sizzen dat ik smyt reden út it finster. Dat wol sizze dat de wierheid is altyd wolkom nettsjinsteande jo ras. De indiscriminate untruths ferteld tsjin dizze jonge man, nettsjinsteande syn ferline, en de unfair characterizations fan himsels en sels Rachel Jeantel, allegearre gean om te bewizen dat ras docht matearje. It sear my oan myn hert, dat dit proses einige de wize dat dien om't Trayvon Martin liket hawwe fermoarde twaris. De echte sad wierheid is, der is in tekoart fan it meilijen, om't in bern, likefolle wat jo tinzen oer him, ferlear syn libben senselessly en it makket neat út wat syn race wie. Gjin bedrach fan arguing sil ea bring Trayvon werom en gjin bedrach fan kleien giet om ta in oertsjûging foar syn moardner. Wat wy moatte dwaan is echt mear barmhertich nei elkoar en freegje ússels, wat as dat hie west myn bern of in oar dierbere. Nettsjinsteande wa't de dieder wie of wie net, soe jim noch fiele deselde wize? Krekt om't FL hat in wet betsjut net dat wet trumps it wurd fan God. Wat barde ta dû scilst net deadzje? Gods gerjochtichheid sil altyd hearskje. No, Ik gean sitten werom en wachtsje om te sjen wa sil net hearre of begripe it hert fan dit post en besykje nei skoalle my op wêrom't se tinke de reaksjes wurde noch wurdt blaasd út ferhâlding.

      • jonathansampsonAntwurdzje

        Jo erkenne dat net ien fan ús wiene der, mar sizze dat George laei oer Trayvon looking suspicious. As jo ​​wienen der net, hokker grûnen dogge jo foar calling George in liger?

        Wêr wolle jo krije it idee dat ras spile in rol yn dit? George mentored swarte bern, naam in swart famke oan Prom, en hie de freonskip en it respekt fan de oare donkere minsken yn syn buert dy't ferklearre dat hy wie in man fan goede karakter.

        Myn beef is meast seker mei de media, dy't kaam rjocht út 'e poarte mei ras-baiting troch calling Zimmerman a “white-Hispanic,” Sa as te begjinnen in fjoer tusken kleurlingen en blanken. Einsluten, as der gjin kontroverse, se kin net ferkeapje advertinsje romte.

        Ik bin wis oft George en Trayvon koe gean werom en gean troch dat jûn, sy soenen beide dwaan dingen oars. Dat feroaret net it feit dat Trayvon (net in jonge, mar in man) stoar wylst ferdield oer Zimmerman, slamming syn holle yn 'e beton kearen. Dit waard berne út it bewiis fan it gers vlekken op Zimmerman syn werom, likegoed as eye-tsjûge tsjûgenis dat Zimmerman wie op boaiem.

        Ik bin rekke troch it ferstjerren fan in bern, mar ik bin mear rekke troch de ynstruksje en libbensstyl dat bern waard grutbrocht yn en om. As Jeantel ferklearre hiel dúdlik, sy komt út in gebiet dat wite minsken soene net begripe. In plak dêr't teeners soenen smoke pot, in plak dêr't wite minsken wurde neamd “crackers”, en mear. Dit hip-hop lifestyle giet te hâlden killing út bern.

        Ik wie dating in swarte famke doe't ik wenne yn Chattanooga jierren werom wa't waard harassed troch har leeftydsgenoaten omdat se wie “acting white” Foar it ferwêzentlikjen fan in ûnderwiis. Wêr komt dit mentaliteit komme út? It wis is net de skuld fan 'e blanke minsken dat jonge swarte bern wurde ridiculing oare jonge swarte bern foar te besykjen om excel yn it libben.

        Ik besykje om myn stientsje oan it helpen. As software engineer Ik haw frijwillich en holpen ferspraat in leafde foar technyk en programmapartners ûnder jonge swarte Atlanta-basearre famkes, wurkje mei prachtige inisjativen lykas Black Meisjes Code. Rjocht no al dizze bern moatte sjogge tsjin binne grappen lykas Nikki Minaj, en wannabe-thugs rapping oer seks, jild, en shoes.

        Wy binne failing ús jonge swarte bern.

        • Marvin Lee McManusAntwurdzje

          Wat doel hat oankundigje dat jo dated in swarte famke doe't jim wienen yn Chattanooga tsjinje? Jo hoege net te meitsje bekend, dat oan my my om respektearje dyn miening. Dat is eat dat is gewoan inherent. It feit dat jo helpe jonge swarte jongerein net ynsteld jimme ôfsûndere fan alle oare wite boargers óf. Ik sis net dat dat te wêzen Mean of disrespectful mar it is awfully fertochte. De swarte famke jo brûkt om datum is net de iennichste swarte yndividu te lije elk type fan spot oft it út in wyt persoan, in swarte persoan, of immen oars. No, Ik woe sizze wy wienen der net. Mar do scratch in leagen, je altyd fine in dief. Krekt om't George Zimmerman neamd al dy dingen oer it hawwen swarte freonen, en Mentoring swarte bern, wer, betsjut net dat in ding. Ea heard de term hypocrite? Ek, as it reint en ik bin besykje te krijen thús, Ik haw gjin tiid om te peeking yn eltsenien syn finsters. Mar as ik krekt fermoarde immen dy't ik tocht wie fertocht, Ik ha te dwaan myn bêst om beskriuwe dy fermoedens. It hjit embellishing de wierheid. Oan de ein fan de dei, hy hoecht net yn each my. hy sil; lykwols, Face God, Ja hy waard frijsprutsen, En al bin ik teleurgesteld mei de útspraak, jo noch immen oars kin rationalize wei it feit dat ras net spylje in rol yn dit ynsidint; yn it proses, yn 'e media, en sels no. As ras net spylje in part, net ien fan dizze opmerkingen soenen prate oer him safolle. En net allinne út 'e swarte minsken. It is amazing ta my, dat jo prate oer it rap ikoanen dat de bern binne op syk maksimaal as oft it is allinnich swarte bern dy't lykas harren. Wite bern wurde grutter oanhingers fan de Nikki Minaj en Lil Wayne is as immen oars. As jo ​​in kultuer fan wite bern dat kinne muntenveiling in term, “Wigger”, asjebleaft net gek josels yn it leauwen dat syn krekt swarte minsken. beide wei, Der is dommens oan beide kanten en haat oan beide kanten, mar behagen Spare my as jo besykje te rehash de punten dy't jo wolle meitsje om oan te jaan wêrom't George Zimmerman waard frijsprutsen.

        • jonathansampsonAntwurdzje

          Mynhear, Ik bin sprekken út myn persoanlike ûnderfining. Dat is wêrom ik spruts fan myn eks yn Tennessee, en dat is wêrom't ik referearre myn belutsenheid by inisjativen makke te tsjinjen jonge swarte bern. Sadly ik koe jou myn folsleine tsjûgenis, En noch wurde sjoen as gewoan in oare wyt-pion troch oaren.

          Ik wit myn eks is net de iennichste swart famke te krije disrespected. Wat ik bin wizen op is dat jonge swarte bern komme op yn fermiddens dy't net oanmoedigje persoanlike excellence. Dit is net it gefal foar allegearre, mar yn myn persoanlike ûnderfining it is safier net mienskiplik.

          Jo neame George a hypocrite, mar wer, basearre op wat? Witsto George? Wiesto dêr dy nachts? It is net dat George sei hy hie swarte freonen, it is it persoanlik tsjûgenis fan swarten yn syn buert dy't mûnling priizge him. Sa wat basis kinne wy ​​neame syn karakter set fraachtekens doe't al it bewiis stelt foar hy is net, en hat nea west, racist?

          As race spile in rol, wêr docht it bewiis litte sjen dat? De ienige fermelding fan ras wy hawwe yn dit hiele gefal wie yn de wurden fan Jeantel, dy't sei Trayvon neamd George a “Creepy ass cracker,” en letter a “Nigger.” De rasistyske kommentaar kaam út Trayvon, net George. Jeantel tsjûge dat yn har gebiet, dat is wat se neame wite minsken.

          Ik bedoel net te skilderjen wite bern as guon type angel. Ik bin it praten fan kulturele ynfloeden op swart bern allinne om't wy it oer Trayvon yn dizze eksimplaar. Ik bin genôch siik fan it thug mentaliteit ûnder jonge wite bern, lykas. Myn soan, wa is bi-rasiale, sil net opgroeie mei syn broek om 'e knibbels, Praat shirts, en in hâlding dy't kommunisearret apaty en disinterest. Ik wol net sjen dat ûnder wite kids, swarte kids, Hispanic kids, of immen oars. Ynstee, Ik wol te sjen dat folgjende generaasje dwaan better foar himsels.

          ik hâld fan dy, broer. En ik wurdearje dyn passy. Ik bin treaste troch it feit dat wy sawol pray foar en soarch oer dizze folgjende generaasje, en wy wolle sjogge mear slagje as ea earder. God seinigt.

        • Marvin Lee McManusAntwurdzje

          jonathan, dit giet nearne hurd. ik net lêze jo hiele post omdat ik net besocht te ha in ûnienichheid mei jo. Stean my te sizzen, Ik haw net roppen George Zimmerman a hypocrite. Ik gewoan makke ferwizing oan it wurd. Binne jo in nij berne bern fan God? As sa, Hwerom binne wy ​​bantering hinne en wer? Wat binne wy ​​besykje te bewizen. Ik wit net skele wat Trayvon Martin syn ras is, Hy ferlear syn libben doe't er net hawwe te. Jo neamd yn jo oare post Hy wie in jonge man. Nee, hy wie net. As min as wy oft er wêze moat, sadat George Zimmerman wurdt fierder rjochtfeardiging yn dêrby syn libben, hy wie noch in bern. 17 jier âld is lyk oan in bern. Hy waard net groeid. It is dus tryst mei de polarisaasje dy't barde en swarten en blanken en sittend werom as dit is in sport en Foar hokker ploech Racks de measte punten op rige. Dat is krekt plain sad. As Trayvon Martin hie west wyt en George Zimmerman hie west swart, Ik woe noch fiel deselde wize ik fiel no. Mar de tryste wierheid is, hie George Zimmerman west swarte en Trayvon Martin west wyt, dit soe west hawwe in soad oare útkomst yn dat hy soe ha oppakt day 1, stean syn grûn of net en it fonnis meast perfoarst soe west hawwe folle oars. Do bist frij om befriend my oan alle sosjale media Outlet jo wolle as jo wolle krije in gefoel foar wa't ik echt bin; lykwols, op dit punt, Ik bin dien gean hinne en wer, om't it is dus net anywhere. Ik wurdearje dyn antwurden al.

        • Nathanial PolingAntwurdzje

          marvin, jo moatte lêze jo berjochten… Jo hawwe op de oanfal fanôf it begjin wylst noch besocht te spyljen op de “neutraal” Kaart. Jo neamd Zimmerman in liger en in moardner en dan oanfalle dyn wite broer, dy't is it hawwen fan in boargerlik petear. Foar ien, Zimmerman is in Spaansktalich.. Ik haw nea heard ien persoan oprop presidint Obama wyt en dit punt allinne shows jo bias. Myn persoanlike miening is dat de media blies dit yn in race oarloch doe't de wiere dei wie echt binnenstêd tsjin foarstêden. Der binne bepaalde gedragingen lykas rinnen tusken de huzen dy't net gewoan yn dielfakken of gated mienskippen. Any buertprevinsje persoan soe hawwe fûn dit te wêzen nuver gedrach. Wat barde dêrnei wurdt debattearre foar altyd as gjinien wie dêr útsein ien man en de sjuery sjoen nei al it bewiis en hearske dat syn ferhaal holden omheech genôch om net oertsjûgjen, him.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Nathanial, Ik haw net oanfallen gjinien. Ik gewoan dield myn mieningen. Hoewol't se binne sterk, se binne fan My. It soe mear passend foar jo te sizzen
            “Ik fiel lykas jim wienen oanfallende immen”. Ik wit hoe't ik kwam en ik net oanfalle Jonathan by alle. Us mieningen ferskille en net ien fan ús binne wikseljende ús stânpunten, mar wy noch conversed. It praten of bias, jowes is ek hiel skynbere. Wat docht George Zimmerman syn wêzen Hispanics hawwe te krijen mei biwiizgjende dat dit wie net it ras? Is in ynsidint net basearre op ras as it net foarkomme tusken in lid fan de swarte en wite race? Wat docht President Obama syn erfgoed hawwe te dwaan mei dizze tried? Ik haw altyd erkend syn etnyske makeup foar wat it is. sadly, Der binne guons, dy soe beskôgje him swart krekt om 'e kleur fan syn hûd. Ja, Ik sei George Zimmerman wie in liger en in moardner, sawol wiere útspraken. Krekt omdat de sjuery acquitted him net meitsje beide iene false. Oan de ein fan de dei, krekt wat is it punt dat jo besykje te foarm slaan thús? Ik bin sorry as jo fielst as hie ik bin oanfallende anyone. Bin ik net tastien om sprekke myn miening krekt as alle oaren op dizze tried hat sûnder ôfkard foar dat wat dat ik wit ik bin net?

        • pepjrpAntwurdzje

          God sil hearskje, mar jo binne waarnimmend racist. Jo negearje de feiten yn it gefal om't Martin wie swart. Dat is de iennichste reden. Martin foelen Zimmerman neidat ferdwynt foar in pear minuten. Gjin moard barde, Jo wurde misinformed as binne 10 's fan 1000' s dy't sjogge dat troch ras kleurde bril.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Wat ik fyn te wêzen leaver hilaryske myn freon is it feit dat jo meitsje in ferûnderstelling oer my sûnder sels witten my. Op in oare blog hjir (neidat Trayvon, Will Der Be Justice for Florida syn Oare Stand Your Ground Slachtoffer?) on Disqus, immen neamd me a “Nigger” krekt omdat myn eachpunt ferskilden fan harren. Did I respond? Nee. Wêrom net? Om't ik wit wa't ik bin en wat ik fertsjintwurdigje. It Amusing my dat jo ferwize nei God hearskjende as soe te ymplisearje dat jo in kristen. As earste, Ik bin gewoan ferdigenjen Trayvon Martin sûnt er fermoarde waard dat fatale nacht en wurdt hieltyd fermoarde. Ik soe fiel de krekte deselde wize as er wiene in lytse wite kid ek en George Zimmerman wienen swart. It syn oprop Skatte minsklikens. Do sjochst, George Zimmerman is in moardner. Hy devalued oar minske syn libben fanwege in altercation dat hy begûn. Nettsjinsteande syn wurdt frijsprutsen fan “minske” wet, Gods wet sein “dû scilst net deadzje”. Wat hat hy dien? Hy sneuvele doe't de hiele situaasje koe hawwe foarkommen. Wat jo neame rasisme is neat mear as reedlikens basearre op de wearde ik plak op Trayvon syn libben. Am I lilk op George Zimmerman, hielendal net, Hy sil face syn Judge. Am I streek oan de Stand Your Ground Law, ja ik bin. As it net beskermje in swarte man, Marissa Alexander, dy't ûntslein warskôging shots by har man, en dêrnei resultearre yn in 20 jier finzenisstraf foar har, It moat net hawwe tapast oan George Zimmerman beide. Foar jo en nim wat oer myn negearjen feiten en allinne ferdigenjen Trayvon Martin omdat hy is swarte shows my dyn foaroardielen en ynherinte rasisme ferbûn mei jo ras-basearre assumption. It is fierder bliken yn jo ferachting fan 'e “10'S fan 1000' s dy't sjogge dat troch ras kleurde bril”. Tige tank foar it meitsjen fan my laitsje al.

          • pepjrp

            Wy allegearre as kristenen binne tastien om nimme in libben as uzes is yn gefaar… en it docht bliken dat Zimmerman s wie. Ek docht bliken dat jo sille net jaan Zimmerman it foardiel fan dy. As it is net ras basearre, dan myn Myn ekskús, mar do bist ien fan de hiel pear, dat it is net. Mar do bist in kristlik en hast alle oaren dy't ik haw sprutsen mei online net, dus ik sil dy jaan dat respekt. Mar it is dúdlik dat jimme leaud guon untruths oer it gefal sûnder sjen of lústert nei dysels. Dat is dêr't myn verergering komt yn. Ik hie net leauwe ien wei of de oare, oant ik brocht de tiid om te krijen as in soad feiten as ik koe. It wie ferrassende wat ik ûntdutsen. No, Ik sjoch dat der in soad brûke de Marissa Alexander saak te slam de Zimmerman útspraak. No ik wit net safolle oer as ik dit iene, mar ik wit wol dat Aleksander waard oanbean a 3 year pleit deal dat se draaide del. dochs, Ik nea lêzen dat feit yn immen syn berjochten. Der is ek getugenis dat se koe hawwe lofts en sels kaam werom neidat sy wie fuort, mar ik wit net, dat foar wis, mar it is in part fan it Iepenbier Ministearje syn saak. Mar der is grutte reden om oan te nimmen dat Trayvon Martin hie ek lofts en kaam werom. Der wiene minuten dêr't Zimmerman seit oan 'e tillefoan om' e 911 dispatcher dat er net wit wêr't Martin is. Mar do wist net, dat omdat jo net besykje te witten it, Hasto? Myn reaksje fan “10'S fan 1000' s dy't sjogge dat troch ras kleurde bril” stiet as is mear as wier. Der binne genôch fan blanken dy't leauwe Zimmerman is skuldich foar alle soarten fan persoanlike redenen, mar der binne hast gjin donkere minsken dy't fiele Zimmerman kin wêze ûnskuldich Dat is al de rasistyske bewiis jo nedich.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Graach do my in geunst en stopje it. As kristen, Jo moatte witte better as om te besykjen en lêzing my oer leauwen untruths. Dat hâldt dus yn dat jo leauwe alles dat kaem út George Zimmerman syn mûle wie wierheid. Ik sil net oanreitsje, dat omdat op 'e nij, allinne God is syn Sweetie. De mear jo besykje te klinke ûnpartidige en rasjonele oer dit gefal, de slimmer it krijt. En op 'e nij, quit stel jim witte hoefolle fan dit gefal ik harke ta foar mysels. Ik bin in hiel goed lêze, ûnderwiisd, yndividuele dy't by steat is om te tinken foar mysels, apart from emoasje. Nim dan fertel my yn 'e bibel dêr't it seit oft dyn libben is yn gefaar, kinne jo nimme in oare ien. Dû scilst net deadzje betsjut krekt dat. En behagen Spare my mei de âlde Testamint killings dy't gongber omdat Gods genede hie net komme op it toaniel. De Marissa Alexander saak, makket neat út, pleit deal of net, as se fielde har libben wienen yn gefaar, se hie alle rjocht om te stean har grûn. Jo stypje in wet dy't bûn yn blatant rasistyske overtones en besykje te ferdigenje it, wer, net in goede útstrieling. Ek, as jo fiele de bibel jout oan oft dyn libben is yn gefaar kinne jo nimme in oare ien, hoe fielst dy oer wanprodukten dy't klinyske nedich. Gewoan nijsgjirrich om te witten. Wer, oan de ein fan de dei, jo mieningen binne dines en wurde net feroaret, noch binne mines. Allinne ferskil is, mines resultaat út in suvere humane eachpunt, yours binne gewoan út lilkens en frustraasje dat jo fielst dit gefal wie it ras. Sjoch it ferskil?

          • Nathanial Poling

            Jo krekt toande dyn ûnwittendheid of krekt algemiene tekoart oan kennis… Stand Jo Ground waard nea noch brûkt yn de Zimmerman gefal troch de ferdigening, Hy wie ûnskuldich sels sûnder dat wet. Fierders dat wet hat tapast 2 nei 1 yn 'e geunst fan Afro-Amerikanen ferdigening harsels tsjin oare Afrikaanske Amerikanen as blanken mei help fan de wet.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Gjin saak hoe folle jo wolle wolle wei it SYG wet, it oerlis en de resultaattriem taal nau like de SYG verbiage. SO yn teory krekt omdat SYG waard net berop dien, betsjut net dat dit wie net de basis fan it beslút. furthermore, nim dan sparje my dyn statistiken of it moast wêze kinst werom se op mei bewiis. Oare kear, beskôgje jo taal as jo wolle oannimme dat immen is ûnwittend omdat je binne ûnwittend as jo echt leauwe dat de SYG hearskjen spile gjin diel yn 'e finale útkomst. En sa fier as jo makke stats, Dêrfoar ferwize wy nei beide fan 'e folgjende…

            http://blog.metrotrends.org/2012/08/stand-ground-laws-worsen-racial-disparities/

            http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/07/13/stand-your-ground-laws-increases-racial-bias-in-justifiable-homicide-trials/

            Noflike dei.

          • Nathanial Poling

            hasto echt krekt post in pear willekeurige blogs?

            No lit move op oan in pear echte statistyk:
            Mar ûngefear ien tredde fan Florida "Stand Your Ground" oanspraken yn
            fatale gefallen binne makke troch swarte fertochten, en hja hawwe brûkt de
            definsje sukses 55 prosint fan de tiid, op itselde taryf as de
            befolking op grut en op in heger taryf dan wite fertochten,
            neffens in Daily Caller analyse fan in databank ûnderholden troch de Tampa Bay Times. Dêrneist, de mearderheid fan de slachtoffers yn Florida "Stand Your Ground" gefallen hawwe west wyt.

            Afrikaanske Amerikanen brûkt "Stand Jo Ground" ferdigeningswurken by hast twa kear de snelheid fan harren oanwêzigens yn 'e Florida befolking, dat wie listed at 16.6 prosint yn 2012.

            http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law/fatal-cases

            furthermore, Ik krekt lêzen fan in saak yn New York yn 2009: http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

            Soarte fan wjerleit de hiele race card argumint dat presidint Obama en oaren spile mei dit gefal dat in swarte folwoeksen soe net hawwe wurde frijsprutsen as se fermoarde in wyt tiener.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Nathanial,

            Ik bin net fan doel en nim neat oer dy foar in momint oars as jo dúdlik dogge net graach te wêzen mis en do ek leafde te ferdigenjen in kontroversjele wet. Oft jo it tajaan dat of net en fine stats dy't stypje jo ferheljende, as elkenien kin, SYG wetten, oft berop dien wurde yn dit gefal of net, hawwe in ynboude rasiale imp. Ik haw hielendal gjin foarnimmen fan oanhâldende dizze rede mei dy. Wêrom? Jo kinne freegje. It accomplishing absolút neat. Jo miening is net te feroarjen en noch is mines. Betsjut dat ik kin net of net respektearje jo? Hielendal net. It betsjut Ik bin wurch fan it slaan fan in deade hynder mei dy. Civil debat wurdt echt mist yn dizze naasje en dit is fierder bewiis dat wy hawwe in lange wei te gean om foar ús te wêzen ien naasje ûnder God. Ik bid Syn leafde permeates dyn hert sa goed as mines en wa't dat fierder kinne stroffelje op dizze blog. Have a geweldige jûn.

          • Nathanial Poling

            marvin,
            Ik sjoch dy skirted myn antwurd. Ik sil bidde foar jimme ek dat God smyt dyn “ras” blinders dy't beynfloedzje jo arguminten. Ik wit rasisme sil altiten bestean út alle rassen nei oaren, mar der binne guon minsken dy't der binne, dat hawwe ferpleatst boppe ras en elke ynsidint hat net altyd te krijen mei de kleur fan de hûd. Ik soe west hawwe stypjende as bewiis toande dat Zimmerman wie skuldich fan in misdie, mar ik sil fierder te betwivelje immen dy't is sterk beynfloede troch in hast 100% wite media mei falske motiven om te skilderjen dit ferhaal yn wat dat soe tekenje sjoggers yn en meitsje se mear jild en ek triuwe harren anty-gun aginda. Se doctored video, Audio Tapes en in protte oare ferhalen te rile de African American mienskippen en ik tink dat it in travestyrol. Ik hoopje Zimmerman Sues harren broek ôf foar defamation en laster.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Nathanial,

            Wylst jo bidden, dat God smyt it ras blinders út myn eagen wylst útgeande dat is de reden dat ik hâld de advizen Ik hâld, nim dan realisearje dat gebed nei alle gedachten sil der meitsje it ferline dyn plafond. Ik skirted dyn antwurd omdat ik net fiele de needsaak om te antwurdzjen mei jo as jo hawwe gjin idee wêr't jo it oer wêr't ik bin belutsen. Jo kinne gjin mix in gebed fan leafde en haat allegearre tagelyk. Jo ûnderstelling dat krekt om't Trayvon Martin wie swart en is de reden Ik fiel de wei ik dwaan is dúdlik ferkeard. Ik bin der net hinne te ferdigenjen dat miening eltse fierder oan jo of immen oars, om't oan 'e ein fan de dei, jo sille noch fiele de wei, dat jimme dogge en wêze scheinheilig deroer. It misledigjend as leauwige foar jo om sels besykje te kommen oer de wize wêrop dat jo as jo witte sels, dat wiisheid is in god-jûn startkaptaal, dat hie er al tapast dy jûns op George Zimmerman syn part, wy soene net hawwende dizze diskusje. Jo sjogge myn freon, Komt de satan te ferdielen, en hy is wis docht syn wurk mei dizze dei. Ik hâld myn mieningen omdat in jonge man syn libben waard nommen–POINT blanke, PERIOADE! It feit dat jo hâlde narrow-minded oer it yn te nimmen dat omdat ik bin swart en Trayvon Martin is swart, Ik fiel dy wize, is dúdlik absurd. Foar jo om te praten oer ras blinders wurdt fuorthelle út myn eagen wylst jo dúdlik wearing jo eigen is om te laitsjen my. Yn stee fan bidden foar immen oars, jo kinne wol nei freegje God om te begjinnen mei dyn hert earst. Jo kin wêze forheard op wat Hy ferriedt mei dy.

          • Nathanial Poling

            jimme begûn mei de biddende, dus net lêzing my oer wat te bidden oer. Ik tink dat jim moatte kontrolearje jo eigen hert, it wie dúdlik dat wie likernôch race omdat ik twifelje dat soe hawwe makke him foarby lokaal nijs en yn de measte minsken fan geasten as dit gefal hie west swart op swart of swart op wyt. As jo ​​net wolle gesicht de feiten, dat is dyn kar mar der binne in soad saken dy't stypje myn sicht ynklusyf de swarte man yn New York dy't deasketten in wite tiener wearing Hoody en waard hielendal fûn net skuldich oan alle heffingen. Der waarden gjin lanlike media sjocht omheech, gjin wyt race baiters skilje foar protesten. Dat ferhaal soe hielendal oars hie Martin net oanfallen Zimmerman en ik soe stypje in protte fan jimme opfettings, mar de twadde Martin besletten waard er hinne te dwaan sear oan Zimmerman en sloegen syn holle tsjin 'e stoepe en punch syn antlit in, hy sette himsels op te wêzen skot. Perioade.. einfan it ferhaal… throw út it ras en dat is de flakte en simpel feiten.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Wow. Gjin wûnder binne der noch ôfgryslik ras relaasjes yn dit lân. It is mear as dúdlik net út wat ik haw sein of hoe't ik haw utere mysels, do bist ynhâld te generalisearje myn reaksje en myn gefoelens. Dat sein hawwende, genietsje fan dyn gebed tiid en hawwe in grutte libben. Ik hoopje dy te sjen oan 'e oare kant.

    • NicoleAntwurdzje

      Ik gean akkoard mei it berikken balâns by it bepalen alle sosjale injustices. lykwols, der wie audio yn it begjin dêr't hy brûkte in rasiale slur en hy hat in skiednis fan roppe op swarte jonges yn 'e buert. Race meie net de iennige faktor, mar it is.

      • jonathansampsonAntwurdzje

        Nicole, George neamde him in “Gean troch,” en in “f * cking punk.” It ienige bewiis fan in rasiale slurs kamen doe't Jeantel naam de tribune en bitsjûge dat wylst se wie oan 'e tillefoan mei Trayvon, Trayvon neamd George a “Creepy ass cracka,” en letter a “nigga”.

        george mentored (op syn minst twa) swarte bern, naam in swart famke oan Prom, en sels hie de stipe fan 'e swarten yn syn buert yn syn rol fan buertprevinsje. Der wie hielendal gjin bewiis dat Trayvon wie racially profilearre, of dat George is racist.

        • pepjrpAntwurdzje

          Great baan lykas jim witte jo guod. Te slim der binne allinnich mar 1 miljoen fan sa swarte minsken út dêr te opliede op 'e wierheid yn dizze saak as jo diene mei Bean en Nicole. Amazing hoe safolle wolle leauwe ras haat en kin net oer it hurd genôch.

        • beansAntwurdzje

          Hmm.. Ik tink it wie “Coon” net goon. Dat is in rasjale term.

          Wat docht dizze saak no dochs? Binne wy ​​allegearre krekt striidt allinne foar ús stânpunt noch wer?? Ik haw noch te sjen eltsenien op dit foarum útwikseling wat betsjuttingsfolle.

          Ik sil nea begripe dat.. wy binne hearre te wêzen de tsjerke.

        • jonathansampsonAntwurdzje

          It debat wie tusken Coon en goon - it ferskil fan de c en in g. George syn freon fan rûchwei in desennium (en swart, as dat ta docht) tinkt de term brûkt wie “Gean troch,” dêr't yn stie hat er net heard anybody jonger as harren 40 of 50 fan gebrûk “Coon” as in rasjale slur. Ik persoanlik haw net heard Coon brûkt as derogative; Ik haw allinne ea heard dat brûkt as in ferwizing nei Waskbearen.

          As jo ​​ûndersykje dit iene dûbelsinnige audio clip yn it ljocht fan al it oare, it makket mear betsjutting dat er sein “Gean troch”. Einsluten, joe Oliver (George syn swarte freon) sei dat yn in desennium er nea seach neat, dat soe suggest George is racist. George naam in swart famke oan Prom, en mentored jonge swarte bern. Der is gjin bewiis dat er views anybody oars as minder as er op grûn fan harren hûd kleur.

          Dat debat is wichtich omdat de tsjerke is opboud út alle ferskillende soarten fan minsken, Swart en wyt. Sa'n tragyske ferhaal as dit kin liede ta grutte haadkloften yn sichtbere lichem, en as sadanich wy moatte om alle wurde ynteressearre yn wurkjen fan 'e wierheid, basearre op ferstân en bewiis, sa as foar te kommen ûnnedige saken yn it lichem.

        • pepjrpAntwurdzje

          Nee, Hy sei it is fu **** g kjeld. googleje it. Harkje nei de audio. De FBI ferklearre dat wie wat waard sein. Der wie gjin rasistyske slurs útsein by Martin.

        • beansAntwurdzje

          Miskien hy woe net sizze in rasjale term doe. Ik wit net wat wie yn syn geast, mar ik persoanlik net tinke Zimmerman wie in racist. Hy die lykwols “racially profyl” Trayvon. En dat is tragyske op himsels in protte redenen…

          Dus, wy moatte beprate…1. Hoe wy omgean mei de relatyf hegere crime tariven yn de swarte mienskip? Hawwe minsken sels soargje te dwaan neat oer dit as safolle sizze syn a “Swart” probleem? 2. Hoe kinne wy ​​stopje pigeonholing minsken yn bepaalde stereotypen basearre op kleur? Is it de media? Wat oer dizze statistyk, wat it echt betsjutte? 3. Hoe kinne wy ​​wêze mear united? Sjoch elts oare stânpunten? Miskien hawwe mear foarums dêr't minsken beprate harren ûnderfinings?

          Ik wol hawwe dat diskusje, mar fighting inoar is net te help. Wat is it punt fan hurling misledigingen? De bringe de 1960 's. It wizen op de swart op swart misdie tariven as guon ferantwurding.. Wêrom binne minsken dogge dit? Krekt te sear inoar?

          as kristenen, hoe kinne wy ​​wêze in foarbyld fan hoe't it komme byinoar yn drege situaasjes like this? Hoe kinne wy ​​brûke it foarbyld fan Jezus ta net pick it vlek út ús broer syn each- mar om te ûndersykje ússels en freegje oft we dogge allegearre dat wy kinne te meitsje dizze wrâld in better plak?

      • pepjrpAntwurdzje

        wrong Nicole… mear leagens en inaccuracies troch it ras hustlers en liberale media. It sil duorje lang om ûnbegrûne al de leagens dy't te folle kleurlingen binne mear as lokkich te leauwe. Nicole, jo net witte de feiten. Please leare harren.

      • Nathanial PolingAntwurdzje

        Nicole, hasto harkje nei de rjochtsaak? De ienige rasiale slurs wienen komst út 'e mûle fan Martin neffens syn freon, dy't praat waard ta him op' e telefoan.

        • lewritesAntwurdzje

          earste off, Ik bedoel no disrespect…Ik bin wyt / memmetaal American. Mar ik haw allinne ea heard “Gean troch” in ferwizing nei swarte minsken. En sa fier as wat Jonathan Thompson is sizze…Ik haw heard en bekende minsken dy't mentor swarte bern omdat sy wolle “civilize” har of krekt omdat se dwaan wolle harren goede akte fan de dei troch helpen in oar ras.

          Ik sis net dat Martin wie rjocht om te sizzen wat er sein. Fier fan it. Ik tink dat beide kanten dienen mis yn dit gefal en ik leau net wy sille oait kenne de wierheid. Einsluten, genôch minsken hawwe west by steat om fuort mei moard troch meitsjen eltsenien leauwe harren ferhaal…der wie in gefal yn myn hûs tastân wêryn in keardel fermoarde in tiener famke en krige minsken oan lizze foar him en jou him in alibi. Uteinlik waard it folk die komme út en fertel de wierheid, mar ik bin krekt sizzen krekt omdat hy waard frijsprutsen en minsken seine al dit guod oer him betsjut net dat se waarden net being ûnearlik. Ik bin ek net dat hy wie being ûnearlik, itsij.

          In oare gefal yn myn hûs steat belutsen in fuotballer wurdt deaslein troch twa jongens út in oare skoalle yn de konferinsje. Nettsjinsteande each attend akkounts, ien fan dizze beide mannen krigen út scott frij, de oare men koe in pleit deal foar deaslach. Minsken meimakke dizze twa jonge mannen Sucker Punch dizze keardel wylst hy hie syn rêch keard nei harren, en se oergien ta sloegen him til hy wie op 'e grûn, ûnbewust, doe se split doe't se hearden de sirens. En ien fan harren te rinnen.

          Der is grutte gatten yn 'e gerjochtichheid systeem, krekt om't immen wurdt frijsprutsen betsjut net dat se binne ûnskuldich. Oan de oare kant, genôch fan minsken dy't bewiisd skuldich en sels deasketten dat waarden letter fûn te wêzen ûnskuldich. Allinne twa persoanen witte foar wis wat der bard dy nachts

        • jonathansampsonAntwurdzje

          Ik haw der ea heard “Gean troch” brûkt as rasiale slur foar swarte minsken. Krekt gie werom te kontrolearjen Urban Dictionary en it skynt net te hawwen oer ras yn ien fan syn top definysjes.

          IN “Gean troch” is typysk somebody dumb, of grut. Mafia lieders soe stjoere harren “Goons” út te dwaan harren bidding. Krekt te wêzen yngreven ik kontrolearre de etymology, en it ek net list gjin rasiale ferienings. Kenmerken it oan matroazen, muscular yndividuen, en letter yn de skiednis oan Tholandia.

          As foar wat kommentaar oer Mentoring jonge swarte bern omdat jo wolle “civilize harren,” kinne wy ​​net oannimme minsken motiven basearre op ús eigen preconceived oardielen dêrfan - it is gewoan net earlik. As George mentored swarte bern, en ik haw gjin basis foar útgeande fan wat subsydzje gearspanning op syn kant, Ik haw en nim it is om't er fanwegen fersoarge oer harren.

          Bottom line yn de Zimmerman saak is dat it bewiis foarstellings George wie op boaiem. Travyon syn knokkels sjen litte dat hy wie stricken somebody. George syn holle waard swier tik en slein. Hy wie koöperative noch foardat it hawwen fan in abbekaat, sels nimme de plysje út te reenact wat der bard. Detectives naam syn ferhaal oer en oer, ferskate ferskillende kearen, sykje nei tekens fan bedroch en fûn gjinien. By elke maatregel docht bliken dat George wie yn bang foar grutte lichaamlike skea, of sels ferstjerren. We hawwe gjin basis foar suggesting oars.

          Ik gean akkoard dat minsken dogge freeslike dingen en krije fuort dermei, wylst oare minsken wurde ûnrjochtfeardich straft foar misdieden se net commit. Ik tink net dat de eardere jildt foar George; net basearre op it bewiis. Mar ik tink it lêste docht sa't er no hawwende te ferbergjen te beskermjen himsels en syn famylje wylst de wrâld verven him as in rasistyske - byhearrend blanken en swarten alles oer te winskje him dea.

          Der binne gatten yn it systeem; sil net sizze dat. Mar wy ha gjin basis foar willekeurich ascribing gjin útkomst as it gefolch fan dy gatten – net sûnder guon type bewiis, of bêst reasoning. Alles yn dit gefal, allegear fan de gegevens dy't wy ha moasten troch moannen fan scrutiny, stelt foar George hat west earlik oer dy nachts. Eye-tsjûge tsjûgenis stipet syn ferhaal. Ear-tsjûge tsjûgenis stipet syn ferhaal. De feiten net misalign harsels mei syn ferhaal. Wy moatte, út respekt foar it ferstân, reservearje gjin fierdere spekulearre en oardiel foar God.

          As jo ​​wolle sjen in dúdlik gefal fan ûnskuldige de slacht, sjoch net fierder as Johannes Spooner. In man yn syn 70 s skeat in jonge swarte bern twa kear op klearljochte dei ferline jier. Witte “white privileezje” sil net beskermje him, Hy opwûn wurde pleading insanity. Dat soe in goed plak om te sykjen foar rasisme – de Zimmerman proses is net. Being light-skinned net litte krije jo fuort mei moard.

        • lewritesAntwurdzje

          Do hast gelyk, kinne wy ​​net oannimme neat, Ik perfoarst mei iens. Wat ik besykje te dwaan is toanielstik duvel syn foarsprekker. Ik wit being ljocht skinned net krije jo fuort mei moard (yn it gefal fan 'e keardel killing in famke, de jonge wie wyt, yn it gefal fan 'e fuotballer, Alle partijen wienen swart).
          Mar it is net alhiel bûten it fak te tinken…goed…bûten fan it fak. Urban Dictionary ik net echt gean om foar in soad ynformaasje, omdat in protte fan wat ik hear hinne wêr't ik wenje is sa oars wat pleatst op dy site. Faaks myn regio kieze ferskillende wurden ferskillende betsjuttings. Krekt as in thumbs up yn bepaalde mienskippen lyk stiet mei it middelste finger.
          Ik wie seksueel misbrûkt as in jonge kid troch in persoan dy't nimmen soe ea fertocht soe dwaan sa'n ding. In goede track rekôr, goede âlden, liket in goed persoan. Elk oannomd safolle…rjochts? As immen is sa goed, hoe koe se wat dwaan lykas dat foar my?
          Folstean it te sizzen, dit gefal bringt up goede diskusje punten, likefolle oft of net rasisme wie de motivaasje. yeah, de media fed derop, en it wie besiking, dat hja diene sa. Ik wie in media majoar yn it kolleezje, wy leard om te wêzen Unbiased, mar guon minsken ferkeapje út om de korporaasje te meitsje in better ferhaal, it is ferkeard.
          Dit is wêrom't ik bid foar beide famyljes, Ik lit it up ta God te wêzen de finale rjochter, want yn it ein, Hy is de ienige dy't it plak om te dwaan. It spyt my as ik feroarsake eltse disrespect, Ik bedoelde gjinien.

    • pepjrpAntwurdzje

      De media hat gjin soarch oer dyn ferhaal, want do bist net Swart. Whites en Hispanics binne yn it krús-hierren foar rasistyske lieders lykas Jackson en Sharptin.

    • pepjrpAntwurdzje

      Jo krekt ferbetterje as dizze skriuwer erroneously brocht yn race doe't er sei dat Zimmerman profylearde Martin en jo ferstannich joegen de feiten dy't wiene oerbleaun út. Rasiale haat kin befoarderje doe't minsken melde ûnferantwurdlik. Teffens liet út of net witte dat Martin net rinne op de stoepen doe't hinne thús, Hy snije troch yards gewoan in pear meter fan huzen en doarren bringen erchtinkendheid op himsels. Zimmerman melden dat libje mei de 911 operator as hy rûn en eyed Martin. Krekt sa't hy melde live dat Martin wie gien en hy hie ferlern him. Wêrom hat Martin komme werom as minuten gie troch en wêrom is dat alle wichtige feit weilitten troch de netwurken en de kliber? In feit Hy hat oanjûn in protte kearen, mar altyd liet út troch de swarte massa en fansels, de race Hustlers lykas Jackson en Sharptin.

  2. gdoggydog05Antwurdzje

    It probleem is, ek, dat gjinien sil tajaan, dat it is ek rasistyske foar minsken te kiezen dat gefal as wichtige men dat elkenien wurdt stimd yn ta, en hat in miening op, op grûn fan ras. ik wurdearje dyn thoughtfulness boppe, as dit is ien fan 'e minder ûnwittend berjochten dat ik haw lêzen, mar ik bin in wyt 26 jierrige frou út 'e suborbs en ik haw ek al leed troch dit gefal. It is net allinnich de profilearring dat bewiist rasisme is noch yn libben. It feit dat dit gefal is bekend by alles is rasisme by syn suverste foarm. Wy hawwe it oer dat gefal omdat in swarte jonge is dead. Wy hawwe achte in swarte trajedy (miskien is it bart faker, en dat is tragyske, mar net myn punt hjir) te wêzen wichtiger as alle oare tûzenen trageedzjes alle dagen. Der binne alderlei trajedies fan swarte minsken killing wite minsken en sels rasiaal ynspirearre ones, dy't net rapportearre en glazed oer, en dit te, is mear in normale ding. Oan it Wiskonsin fair, Ik leau it wie, in pear jier lyn in flash mob út African American tieners ransacked de merke en koördinearre oanfallen tsjin blanken-allinne, yn guon gefallen se Punched âldere minsken yn it gesicht, liep lokale wenten en saken mei sifers en stiel en yntimidearre mei krêft, en gjin media dekking. Kinne jim foarstelle as in groep blanke jongerein rjochte Blacks? De media kiest, En as jo kieze, as jo allinne rjochtsje op it “mar in swart persoan kin begripe” kant fan dit gefal, dat in swarte trageedzje is de meast wichtige one, ek no, wylst hispanics, Sineesk, Whites, wurde fermoarde yn in fergelykbere moade. Dit gefal kin wêze symboalysk fan wat soarte fan swart “wrakseling,” ik begryp dat. Mar dit is net de wei te lossen it. Ik wit foar in gesicht dat dit krekt widens de kleau tusken ús. Jo hawwe ferteld my as in blanke man, dat ik net begripe hoe't it is om te wurde profilearre, mar eins ik waard profilearre al dy deselde manieren, as in jongfeint. ik bin it dermei iens, it is moreso mei donker kleurde skin, mar “jong” hat grif te krijen mei it te. Jo sizze ik sil nea begripe, mar miskien do silst nea begripe wat it makket my fiele lykas doe't al myn swarte christian bruorren harren rjochtsje op Martin, en net sels erkenne it feit dat it mis yn it earste plak om te kiezen dizze trajedy as wichtiger dy de hûnderten ferlykbere trajedys dy't foarkomme deistige. Ik leau it is sûnde. Dat is in miening. Dat guon soarte fan sûndich tinken is efter it dan in eksimplaar fan kiezen iene ras boppe in oar. En ik leau ” Jo hawwe net west yn myn skuon” allinnich widens dat kleau tusken rassen en is in ûnearlik útspraak. Do witst wat it is as foar my om net nei kolleezje, want ik haw gjin 8 grand leggen around, wylst watching Afrikaanske Amerikanen mei deselde sifers getting myn plak en in stúdzjebeurs? Jo nei alle gedachten net. Myn punt is, dat eltse kear as jo sizze “jo net witte wat it is as te wêzen myn kleur,” jo binne net dogge neat produktyf, want ik kin nea wêze dyn kleur. Ik leau dat swarten wurde krekt as bline oan 'e saken dy't wêrtroch in djippe divide tusken rassen. Afrikaanske Amerikanen are watching dit Travon Martin ding en it tinken ien ding, wylst Whites wurde tinke wat folslein oars. “Is it krekt en rjocht foar dit gefal wurde keazen as wichtich, en ferneamd, en grutter as al it oare, op grûn fan ras?” Ik haw noch te sjen ien African American kristen te neamen dit. En om te negearje dat feit is te wêzen wit. Der kin wat wierheid dat swarten wurde profilearre, mar kieze te setten in saak op in skerm op basis fan ras is ferkeard, en disrespectful foar oare rassen dy't fermoarde krekt as travon wie.

    • Deborah Bilbo-ConeyAntwurdzje

      Gdoggy, alles wat jo hawwe sein makket gefoel. Ik bin swart en de mem fan twa soannen, dy't ik tein om te sjen minsken foar harren karakter en goedens net de kleur fan harren hûd. Myn soannen hawwe dated wite famkes, Hawaiian famkes, etc. en ik altyd ferteld se Ik hie gjin probleem mei it om't wy binne allegearre makke troch ien God dy't krekt en earlike. Man makke dit divide lang lyn by de toer fan Babel. Dit wêzen sei, op oan 'e rjochtsaak. Ja, Trayvon syn saak waard útstjoerd en it wie in foarkar fan in kombinaasje fan oanhâldende minsken en dy tekening omtinken foar de saak. Wat guon swarte minsken net begripe is dat swarte minsken binne racist te. Wy hawwe te meitsje mei in bewust muoite om gjin skuld alles op ras. It is net it ras allinne, It giet oer George Zimmerman net obeying de plysje doe't se fertelden him “NET TO FOLGJEN.” No in pear fan 'e negative konklúzjes binne lutsen út syn oerhearrigens oan' e tige wet dy't yn 'e ein beskerme him mei de Stand Your Ground wet. Ik fiel grutte sympaty foar Trayvon syn famylje, benammen syn mem net om't er in swarte jonge, mar omdat hy wie in mem'S BERN! Misdie is ferkeard no út wa't ferplichtet him, mar waard er echt begean fan in misdie troch net rinne op 'e stoepe? Zimmerman wie te fluch om te hanneljen, Hy moatten wachte in bytsje langer om te sjen wat Trayvon syn dieden wiene, as wie er hinne te sjen yn in finster of besykje te brekken yn in doar foardat folgjende him. RIGHT LINE IS GEORGE Visser disobeyed A DIRECT SEIN FROM wetshandhavingsinstanties! Rekkenje mar út.

      • gdoggydog05Antwurdzje

        tank foar dyn begripen myn opmerkingen. te hearren is út de Afrikaansk Americans lykas jo, docht jou my hope. i akkoard george Zimmerman hannele healwiis. Hy moatten wachte Cops, net út hoe lilk hy wie dat de buert hâlden getting brutsen yn….Ja do hast gelyk. net minder, foar disobeying dat kommando allinnich, i dont tinke hy moat gean nei finzenis foar it libben of yn rekken brocht mei moard. we moatte sjoch nei de yndividuele foarfal. net perfoarst wat bart. Lit my dy in foarbyld jaan. ok twa foarbylden dy't ik tink hâlden gerjochtichheid yn gedachten. yn ien gefal, in man litters…. hy wit har mis, mar yn in momint fan 'e swakkens, wylst it riden del de dyk hy smyt syn milkshake út mcdonalds út it rút….. letter op, immen sjocht de milshake, tinkt syn a bunny rabitt (ik wit dizze foarbylden binne bespotlik, Haw geduld mei my) en swerves, Wrecks de auto en dies. wat is de man skuldich oan? moard? …. nee hy is skuldich fan swerfôffal. alle sûnde leads ta moard. sûnde is de reden wêrom't Kristus moast stjerre. Mar hjir op ierde, wy wurde beoardiele neffens de kriminaliteit, to hâlden oarder. Okay, hjir is in oare ferlykbere senario dêr't yn mindere aksje feroarsaket in grutter reaksje. In loai persoan dy't net wurket hurd genôch op konsintrearjen yn wichtige taken lykas op syk nei har 2 jier âlde soan…. hat har poppe yn 'e auto mei de auto rinnen en garaazje door del… ferjit har mobile telefoan yn 'e hûs….. in oprop komt troch, se bringt op oere op de oprop en komt út en har bern is dead. Wat is sy skuldich oan? Just laziness en ôfwêzich-mindedness? Goed, har bern kin net ferdigenje himsels. Hy is in bern. Hja wist se wie ferantwurdlik en har negligent Wet feroarsake syn dea. Dit is deaslach. It bern hie gjin diel oan it.Only sy is skuldich. ok, Zimmerman moat wêze skuldich oan obstruksje fan gerjochtichheid en miskien in pear oare saken …. mar, as syn wier dat travon ynskeakele him en waard slaan him, en doe hy skeat him. George Zimmerman is skuldich oan disobeying de plysje. Mar der is in oare frije wil partij belutsen. As Travon hie, sizze, 3 karren….. drave (Hy wie hast perfoarst hurder….. Gean deryn….. of faaks lilk en giet it krekt george as oan wêrom't hy wie hassling him. wit net wat er die. Dat is it punt. As er wie besocht te krijen fuort en waard jage del by Zimmerman, syn murder. Mar as travon, yn grutskens, woe wêze agressyf (ik kin begripe dat….yn it ferline, dit soe west hawwe my )…. dan op dat punt, er ek makke in frije wil beslút dat spile yn de finale resultaat. It probleem is dat we dont witte dat ien fan dy occured. As wy begjinne het opladen minsken basearre op de Famke Fan Myn Dreamen effekten fan ús leagens, en al ús sûnden….ik tink dy soe fine dat wy moatte allegearre wurde sletten fuort. George zzimmerman is skuldich oan obstructing mei de plysje….en kin skuldich fan mear, mar sûnder dat dêr, ik krekt wit net wat.

        • beansAntwurdzje

          Zimmerman net hieltyd belêste is wat ik tink de argewaasje opropt echt wie oer. Ik bin swart mar myn stipe is net basearre op ras by alle. As de rassen waarden draaide om Ik soe fiele 100% it eksakte deselde wize. In man mei in fjoerwapen fersus in Kid.

          Ik ek tink, dat as jo binne de betinker fan 'e neare nacht of gefaarlike situaasje.. do bist culpable foar guon graad… Ik krekt woe FL hie wat wet dy't koe straffe him, om't Z gie út op syk nei de problemen dy nachts.

          Ik wis leauwe as in cop tichterby Trayvon, Trayon al oerstjoer, soe noch wêze yn libben hjoed. Ik tink dat is wêrom ik bin sa oerstjoer. Ik sjoch dizze situaasje as in bern, dy ferlearen syn libben te hâlden oan deselde, as it net mear, ferantwurdlikheid as in man.

          • rita

            SB, Off al de youtubes dat is de meast ofniesfve ik haw ea sjoen. Se is as rasistyske as Sharpton en Jackson. Ik haw nea sa grin fan myn lân ea sûnt dy swarte sob wûn op in kromme race!Doe't sy draacht dy jasje ôf AF1 I gean f'king Nuts.

      • Nathanial PolingAntwurdzje

        Se seine do hast net te folgjen him… dat liket net te wêzen in direkte kommando. furthermore, an operator on 9-1-1 hat gjin ultime autoriteit. It wie ferskriklik dat in jonkje moast stjerre, mar ik twifelje jo goed grutbrocht jonges soe hawwe ea oanfallen Mr. Zimmerman en sloegen syn holle tsjin 'e stoepe en bruts syn noas. Hy soe hawwe frege harren wa't se wiene, sy koenen hawwe antwirden deugdsumer en wêrom se waarden rint tusken huzen yn in gated mienskip en it libben giet oan.

      • pepjrpAntwurdzje

        Jo in moaie dame Deborah, mar do bist mis as kin wêze as jo sein dat giet oer George Zimmerman net obeying de plysje doe't se fertelden him “NET TO FOLGJEN.” Hy die net disobey gjinien. Harkje nei it audio op Youtube! Hy sei OK en begûn kuierjen werom nei syn truck. Hy wie út azem doe't er wie following Martin, mar neidat hy sei OK, it swiere sykheljen stoppe as hy antwurde in pear mear fragen oer it adres foar de Cops en dan hy hinget op as in oantal minuten hie gien troch en hy dúdlik dat er net wit wêr't Martin gie. Martin wie mar 50 werven út syn hûs, mar hy kaam werom op it toaniel. Jo reaksje fan bottom LINE IS GEORGE Visser disobeyed A DIRECT SEIN FROM wetshandhavingsinstanties is totaal nonfactual en jo net lykje as de soarte fan persoan, dy't wol sprieding lies. Jo binne lied om as hawwe 1.000 en 1.000 s fan oaren! Harkje en ûndersyk en jo sille fine út dat Ik sis jimme de wierheid! en technysk, de 911 operator sei tsjin Zimmerman “We dogge net nedich jimme te dwaan dat”. Zimmerman sei OK en do kinst hearre dat hy stoppe rinnen. Krije de feiten net leauwe de rasistyske lies.

    • andrew KeeterAntwurdzje

      Reis ik moat
      iens mei gdoggydog05
      omdat hy ferklearret syn senario hiel goed.
      Dizze konfrontaasje tusken Zimmermann en Martin wie wat dat
      bart op deistige basis yn dit lân en as folle fan in trageedzje as it is om te
      sjogge in jonge man fermoarde, it is mear fan in trageedzje te sjen de media keare dit yn
      in rasiale oandreaune proef mei gjin mooglik goede útkomst as Zimmermann waard fûn net
      skuldich. Dat nacht Trayvon wie skot
      der wie gjin rasiale profilearring troch Zimmermann dat kin wurde bewiisd. De media tegearre mei Jesse Jackon, al
      Sharpton, President Obama, De Nije Black Panther Party en oare grutte tiid
      African American celebrities stie oerein te jaan har miening oer wat se tinke
      barde doe't gjinien útsein Trayvon Martin en George Zimmermann echt wist wat
      barde. Dy aksjes makke in stoarm
      fan rasiale geweld oerlis dat koe net stoppe. Ik tink dat wy moatte bidde foar beide kanten fan dizze
      trial en freegje dat God stap yn te treastgjen dyjingen dy't hurting, Angered, en
      betizing oer dizze hiele situaasje.
      Satan hat kontrôle fan de media yn dat lân en hy docht wat er wol
      mei it. Jo allinne hearre oer de ferhalen
      dat sil de measte oandacht dus dan dizze bias media stasjons kinne ferkeapje
      lucht tiid foar bedriuwen om te sjen reklames.
      Ik bedoel hoe folle mear tinkst hja gebea yn de tiden fan dit
      trial on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC en oare relaasjes sadat bedriuwen koenen krije
      harren reklamespotsjes op it ferkeapjen fan harren produkten oan it publyk. It is net oer melde it nijs op 'e
      ferstjerren fan in jonge man wei foar syn tiid en de persoan dy't it doelpunt him…..it is
      oer jild dat is de woartel fan alle kwea.
      Dy media stasjons hawwe hjir dit parkoers foar de ôfrûne trije
      wiken sammeljen mear en mear jild krekt loving it. I bet hja hope de rjochtsaak soe gean op langer
      sadat sy koenen bliuwe raking yn de winsten.
      It is siik hoe't wy jouwe sa folle fan ús libben foar de TV en hearrich wêze it like it
      is ús learaar doe't wy moatte wurde yn te setten op Jezus. Jo sels hawwe in liet it oer nimme
      dyn eagen fan dy en setten se op Him.
      Wy moatte nimme ús eagen út 'e TV en rjochtsje op ús eigen mienskip en tsjerken. As wy wenje yn Kalifornje, virginia, New York,
      montana, texas, etc… wy kinne net feroarje wat bard yn Florida dêr't Trayvon
      waard deasketten, mar wy kinne feroarje de manier wêrop ús gemeente hannelt. Wy leare ús bern oer God, Jezus, en
      de Hillige Geast. We kieze mienskip
      lieders, regear amtners, plysje stamhaden, boargemasters, etc dy't steane foar ús Kristlike
      wearden en sil net wer ûnder, do't hja wurde bedrige troch dyjingen dy't noch hawwe de
      Veil oer harren eagen. Wy kinne net bliuwe
      yn te setten op wat der bart oeren fuort doe't ús eigen mienskip hat it dreech
      út deselde saken. Ik bin in wyt 28
      frou dy't tsjinne hat dit lân fjochtsjen yn de Irak oarloch. Ik ynsetten nei in lân dêr't sy hawwe
      neat en seach al de protte dingen ik noch nimme foar ferliende hjoed dat dizze
      minsken soene jaan in earm of skonk te hawwen.
      It makke my realisearje der binne folle gruttere problemen yn dizze wrâld as de
      minor bickering wy fierder te dwaan. satan
      wol rile minsken op en krije se allegear oerstjoer oer rasiale geweld. Immen oars sein it yn harren post, mar ik gean
      sis it ek. De ienige kleur wy moatte wurde
      dwaande mei is de kleur read-werom foar it bloed fan Jezus. Ik echt fiele jo pine yn hawwen rasiale
      profilearjen want doe't ik wie jonger Ik hie myn eigen en noch hjoed ik sjoch
      it. Gdoggydog05 makke in grutte punt oer
      wite bern dy't kin net nei kolleezje, omdat se hawwe net de tûzenen
      dollars ligen om to blazen, mar bern fan oare rassen by steat binne om jild te krijen
      fan 'e oerheid te helpen harren út.
      Itselde ding giet foar banen by fast food of bedriuwen lykas dat. Ik wie racially profilearre doe't ik wie jonger
      besocht om in baan by McDonalds en twa bern dy't in oar ras dan me
      krige de baan en ik die it net. It is net earlik,
      mar it libben is net earlik soms en dat is krekt sjocht jimme, dat de satan stiet
      getting at jo. As God kin ferjaan alles
      jimme sûnde wêrom soe hûdskleur wurde in dei mei Him? Rasiale profilearring is fan dizze wrâld, satan is
      de oerste fen dizze wrâld oant Jezus komt werom te nim it werom. Oant dan moatte wy libje yn dizze wrâld, mar wy
      hoege net te libjen foar dizze wrâld. Wy
      libje foar dingen heger as dizze wrâld nei't syn ússels boppe ras. Wy allegearre hawwe trochmakke striid. Guon hawwe trochmakke striid dy't wiene
      feroarsake troch de kleur fan harren hûd. Guon
      gie troch striid omdat de wei harren lichem looks. Guon gie troch ynterne striid dy't
      waarden feroarsake fan berte. Guon hawwe dien
      stuff se fiele se koenen nea krije oer en wat der mei al dy minsken
      doe't hja kamen to witten Christus,? Sy allegearre
      hiene help mei harren striid. hy sil
      lit ús falle en Hy sil de paadwizer troch de striid. Dit Trayvon vs Zimmermann ding moat it
      stop omdat in oardiel is berikt.
      De gerjochtichheid systeem hat dien syn wurk en we moatte sjen op de
      feiten. As dit gefal wie tusken twa
      minsken fan deselde kleur we as in folk soe noch nea fan heard en it
      deselde útspraak soe hawwe berikt sûnder immen witte. Wy moatte ophâlde litten de media en
      celebrities steuern ús tinken. As wy
      sette ús leauwen yn 'e minske dan sille wy fail.
      Stop te setten op harren en set jimme eagen op HIM.

  3. mattyAntwurdzje

    Wylst ik hielendal iens mei alles sein hjir, Ik fyn it wichtich om te folgjen de feiten en net ús emoasjes yn dit gefal. Lokaal plysje en de FBI besletten hawwe dat rasisme net spylje in rol yn dit gefal. Se fûn gjin oanwizings dat Zimmerman profylearde Martin basearre op syn race. Se fûn bewiis dat Zimmerman profylearde Martin basearre op fertochte aktiviteit. Zimmerman allinnich reagearre doe't frege troch de plysje mei wat race Martin wie. Hy woe net belje op en sizze hy wie nei oanlieding fan in jonge swarte man. Ik sis net dat it wie net rasiale profilearring. Mar it bewiis docht net ta ús om dy bepaling. En blyn kar te leau it wie rasiale doe't der gjin bewiis foar dat feit makket it gefal rasiale as it net hoecht te wêzen. Race net opkommen yn 'e rjochtsaak. As it Iepenbier Ministearje leaude Zimmerman hannele út rasistyske motiven, net tinkst dat hawwe soe komme omheech? It Iepenbier Ministearje nedich om de jurors op har kant…skilderjen Zimmerman as in rasistyske soe west hawwe de bêste manier om te dwaan dat.

    De dei dat jo spruts oer is ongelooflijk echte en ongelooflijk ûnsjoch. Ik bin krekt mei it argumint dat yn dit gefal, skilderjen it as in rasistyske saak doe't it bewiis net stipet it is gefaarlik en net sûn.

  4. samuel ColemanAntwurdzje

    http://youtu.be/DOSyr5VZK3g

    Watch this Video….

    Trip I leafde en Respekt dy, dyn muzyk en dyn berjocht, mar ik hielendal iens mei Jonathan Sampson hjirûnder….

    Ik wit iens dat der seker rasisme hjoed mar dit gefal it krijen media omtinken is in boskje crap.

    Alle fan 'e gefallen dat Glen Beck praat oer GOT 000000000 Media omtinken…. Wêrom ??/ bec wy hawwe in liberale non Christian Land dy't is following de Heit de Devil…. En wy ha in presidint dy't spilet de race card ea minute .. wêrom ? Om wat er wol …. net foar Justysje net foar Truth….

    As in blanke man, myn broer waard holden op gun punt bec hy wie wyt.. as in blanke man Myn heit en syn kolleezje freon wiene út bitsjûgjende en Got circled troch in binde fan Blacks bec wite jonges waarden net sa wêze wêzen yn dat gebiet fan de stêd.. myn bruorren freon krige pistoal fordylge en lit har gean.. Myn heit spriek de wirden fen 'e Hillige Geast, freget de manlju ” bisto honger” en God wist, hja hie gjin iten yn in pear dagen rêde myn Heit…….

    Nee ik bin net in swarte man, mar ik fiel my ôfgryslik foar Trayvon en wannear't der REAL rasisme…

    Us Land giet de afvoer.. Romeinen 1. God hat ús oant it falsk geast…. Wat ha wy sjoen is neat yn ferliking mei wat der te kommen.. Markearje my wards as Amearika giet yn 'e wei dat it giet dan sil wêze Illegal te kristlik wêze en wy sille wurde fermoarde yn' e strjitten..

  5. daveAntwurdzje

    Wurdearje it artikel, Reis.
    Ien ding Ik tink dat is goed foar ús as kristenen te hâlden foar eagen is dat wy moatte hate rasisme / ûnrjocht perioade, no út hokker foarm of moade it komt yn of kleur it is rjochte rjochting. De tryst ding oer saken lykas dit gefal oangeande Trayvon is de kleau faak wurdt breder & it liket mear stappen wurde nommen backwards stee fan oanfallers, omdat in protte standert te nimmen natuerlike kanten (kleur bygelyks) ynstee kiezen kanten op basis fan justysje / ûnrjocht. It keninkryk fan God moat feroarje de wize wêrop de linzen wy wearing sjogge de wrâld. Wy hawwe te wêzen oer aktearjen rjocht boppe aktearjen neffens ús eigen ras. Wy hawwe te wêzen oer leafdefolle barmhertichheit boppe wurdt fueled troch egoïstysk grime.
    Dit is net úteinlik in rasjale issue. Dit is in minsklike sûnde issue dat shows sels yn in soad ferskillende foarmen, soms troch te nimmen kanten op basis fan ras. Minsken út alle ferskillende rassen stereotype & profyl eachother. Wy moatte net opsetten fan in bepaalde kleur (oars as ús eigen) as de fijân. Partikulieren mei sûndige herten stereotype. It is net de races yn & fan harsels úteinlik dat dogge dat. As wy ferjitte dat & wenje ûnder de line fan dat wat wurdt ferwachte of keninkryk boargers, wy sille lûke linen op basis fan ras & gewoan einigje tafoegjen oan it leven.
    Meie wy fjochtsje foar justysje dêr't it moat te striden foar, net gewoan foar harren wij kinne krijen hawwe mei, mar foar harren dy't yn need nettsjinsteande. satan & Sin binne de fijannen. En se binne ferslein troch Jezus oan it krús & it lege grêf. Meie wy earst wurde bepaald troch de kleur read boppe alle oare, de kleur fan it bloed fen Christus, dy't wosken ús skjin.

    • NicoleAntwurdzje

      Ik perfoarst akkoard dat ras is úteinlik in sûnde issue, it is net te ûntsein. Mar bepalen spesifike sûnde problemen helpt ús pakke se mear effektyf. Seks hannel is oan de woartel, in lust issue mar De Jong, dat is hiel oars as de oanpak fan in persoanlike sin addiction. De Bibel hat in soad foarbylden fan sokke spesifikaasjes ek. En alle activism moatte wurkje rjochting wiist minsken nei Kristus, de ienige echte oplossing.

      • beansAntwurdzje

        Ik bin kristlik earst, swarte sekonde- of tredde of te wêzen earlik Ik bin gewoan in kristen. Ik stypje Trayvon en syn famylje net om't hy wie swart, Mar omdat hy wie in Kid. In deastraf foar in punch is te hurd in sin foar myn hert of myn gewisse te hantearjen. Trayvon hie safolle leare yn it libben… Wisten wy gjin ein each foar en each, tosk foar in tosk gerjochtichheid mei Jezus? Koe Trayvon net hawwe west skot yn 'e earm of de skonk? Wêrom syn hert? Ik bin krekt sa tryst foar it ferlies fan it libben, En it soe net útmakket hokker kleur hy wie- In bern is dead. Ik ek tinke as de folwoeksenen, Zimmerman hat mear ferantwurdlikheid (yn myn eagen) te hâlden de situaasje kalm. No, woe er dwaan dat? Kommunisearje yn in freonlik wize dat hy wie it horloazje? Allinne God wit. En allinne God sil render wiere gerjochtichheid.
        “Alle ik wit is dat ik bin net thús en dit [wrâld] is net dêr't ik ta hear.”

        • Nathanial PolingAntwurdzje

          Binne jo útgeande fan Zimmerman rjochte foar syn hert? Ik bin der wis Zimmerman soe leaver om net deadzje de tsiener dat wie besiket te slaan syn harsens út.

        • beansAntwurdzje

          De kûgel gie rjocht troch it hert, dus it soe jildich te oannimme dat wie Zimmerman syn bedoeling.

          Wat syn foarkar wie kin net feroarje wat er eins die. Ik bin frij seker oft ik wie it krijen fan Hurt, en ik hie in fjoerwapen (dat is net wierskynlik), Ik soe sjit syn mage, earm, skonk- earne oars los fan syn hert.

        • Nathanial PolingAntwurdzje

          Blykber do hast noait west yn in gefjocht… as jo hie dat in soad tiid om te rjochtsje jo koenen hawwe skot yn 'e loft en lit de guy run fuort

  6. TylorAntwurdzje

    lit ús hjir fierder de diskusje oer it fraachstik fan rasisme, ja. mar halte falsely omgong rasisme mei dit gefal. nei in jier fan sammeljen bewiis gjinien wie ea by steat te finen eltse shred fan bewiis fan rasisme yn Zimmerman syn ferline of op dy nachts. litte wy stop efternei spoeken en fokus op echte rasisme – lykas it soarte de media sjen lieten troch dit gefal om stir up rasiale animosity en tear ús apart krekt te fergrutsjen harren ratings.

  7. tony ClineAntwurdzje

    Is it rasistyske om der fan út dat in swarte man is mear fan in gefaar as oare rassen doe't Afro-Amerikanen make up 12.6% fan de befolking, mar commit 49.7% moardzjen, krektas in tige ûnevenredige persintaazje fan rapes, assaults, oerfallen, en alle oare kriminaliteit de FBI tracks útsein foar dui? Is dat racist, of is it gewoan yntelligint beslútfoarming basearre op relevante feiten? Ik bin hjirmei net dat rasisme bestiet net; it docht, en oan alle kanten. lykwols, der is mear oan it petear dan sizzen dat elkenien dy't fielt ûnfeilich om minsken dy't statistysk folle mear kâns te wêzen gewelddiedige kriminelen is in racist.

  8. Washington DC evangelistenAntwurdzje

    “geliefde, nea avenge jimsels, mar lit it oan 'e grime fan God, hwent der stiet biskreaun, "Vengeance is mines, Ik sil forjilde, seit de Heare. "Om Krekt oarsom, "As dyn fijân hat honger, jou him te; as hy is toarst, jou him wat te drinken; hwent troch sa dwaan silst heap baarnend dôve koal op syn holle. "Net te oerwinnen troch kwea, mar oerwin kwea mei goed.” ~ Romeinen 12:19-21

  9. C.Antwurdzje

    Ik net echt net iens binne mei wat jim sein, benammen mei hoe ûnsjoch is it wannear't minsken wurde net jûn it foardiel fan 'e twifel yn dy deis nei de dei stuiten. Mar hawwen west freonen mei inkele Cops ik wit dat, foar guon fan harren, jaan dat foardiel fan 'e twifel soe haw harren fermoarde. Dizze wrâld is sa brutsen en nasty somtiden, mei skuld en junk oer de hiele plak. Allinnich Jezus kin lûke ús út it.

    Ik haat dat jo moast omgean mei dat guod. En ik haatsje dat yn guon wizen profilearjen is in super ûnsjoch, awful needsaak (net yn 'e Zimmerman saak). It is ek dreech, mei media en kultuer dy't it soarte byld omfettet dat hast iepen preeket, agressyf, arrogante wetteloosheid. En dat der minsken binne dy't jild meitsje út dizze kultuer fan geweld en goddeleazens. En dat safolle minsken dy't net begripe hoe 't it is om de oare man te wêzen, minder soarch koene oer wite wat it betsjut om de oare man te wêzen.

    Ik hâld fan dat de leafde fan God safolle machtiger is as de wrâld. Ik winskje gewoan dat de leafde fan God faker yn 'e wrâld troch ús werjûn wurde soe, en net nettsjinsteande ús.

    It petear soe perfoarst trochgean moatte. :)

    Geweldich guod Mr. Lee. God seinigt!

  10. apallo95Antwurdzje

    Wylst rasisme in soad is, liket in protte minsken te ferjitten dat zimmerman latino sels wie. gewoan dat derút sette as in feit dat yn gedachten moatte wurde as dizze saak wurdt besprutsen

  11. LizziAntwurdzje

    Ik leau dat in heul effektive manier om te fjochtsjen tsjin rasisme God-freze hat, earlike swarte manlju dy't libbens libje dy't it stereotype ûndermine foar ús om oan te wizen en nee te sizzen, sûnde is it probleem, net ras. Ik haw in heul miening oer hast alle swarte manlju en froulju dy't ik befoarrjochte haw om freonen en mentors te skiljen. Ik bin wierskynliker benijd yn har foardiel dan wat oars… Reach Records is hjir in enoarme faktor, foar in blond famke dat groeit yn 'e genede en wurdt heul opboud troch har muzyk. Wat jo dogge is heul nuttich.

  12. LynnAntwurdzje

    Amen en Amen!! Wy moatte leafde hawwe mei de leafde fan Kristus en bidde foar beide famyljes dy't belutsen binne. Rassisme is echt en is hertbrekkend foar my om te sjen. Betanke foar it dielen fan dit!

  13. MIchaelAntwurdzje

    Ik haw dizze jûn betiid skreaun foardat ik jo post lies, dy't ik hielendal by de wei krij, en ik tocht dat ik it diele soe

    Dat, yn 't gefal dat jo ûnder in rots ferstopten, waard Zimmerman de oare deis net skuldich fûn. Guon sille lokwinskje, oaren sille fûle skrieme. Dizze útspraak hat it lân en yn guon gefallen sels de tsjerke ferdield. Ik lies hjoed in opmerking fan in persoan yn 'e media, en har opmerkingen makken myn bloed siedend. Persoanlik haw ik dit in protte tinzen jûn, en ik haw myn mieningen, mar dizze post giet net oer wat ik doch of net tinke oer it aquital fan Zimmerman. Jezus sei dat de dief komt te stielen, deadzje en ferneatigje….(John 10:10) Ofdieling is in stille moardner. It groeit út 'e siedden fan bitterheid dy't yn ús herten wurde plante as wy ús eagen fan Jezus ôfnimme en de wil sil útkomme as wy net foarsichtich binne. luke 6:45 seit “De goede man út 'e goede skat fan syn hert bringt wat goed is; en de kweade man út 'e kweade skat bringt wat kwea is; want syn mûle sprekt fan dat wat syn hert folt. ”

    Doe't Jezus syn tsjinst begon, seagen de desciples Jezus as politike aktivist. Se ferwachten dat Jezus elke ferkearde dy't Rome oait oan 'e Joaden hie dien, ynwûn en rjochte. Se wiene wierskynlik oke mei dat Jezus guon Romeinske koppen kraak as it betsjutte dat jierren fan besetting korrigeare waarden. Dochs preek Jezus fan 'e dei leafde en tsjinstfeint. Op in stuit sochten de learlingen wierskynlik út dat Jezus gjinien nei Bruce Lee soe gean. Ik freegje my ôf wat se dat privé fan tochten? It Joadske folk hie in protte tiid mei besetting omgien. Eins leau ik fan it lêste boek fan it Alde Testamint oant de tiid fan Jezus sokssawat 400 jier. Dat siedden fan wrok en bitterheid fan beset wiene blommen en se wiene ree om even te krijen. De Messias wie lang om let kaam en it wie tiid om de troepen te riden, diele pitchforks út en stoarmje it kastiel. Dochs doe't se de fakkels lieten, wie Jezus út en preekde jo neiste leafde en dwaan oan oaren lykas jo wolle dat se jo dogge. Dat moast se gek ride. Om belediging ta te foegjen oan ferwûning doe't Jezus oan it krús hong, Hy frege dat de Heit har soe ferjaan, om't se net wisten wat se diene. Dus wat betsjuttet dit allegear?

    Jezus wie in aktivist fan leafde en as syn bruorren en susters wurde wy oansjoen, nee wy wurde gebean itselde te dwaan. Want oan 'e ein fan' e dei is Leafde it iennichste ding dat ea wat feroaret. Wy kinne in kastiel stoarmje, en protestearje alles wat wy wolle, mar d'r sil altyd in ferburgen aginda wêze as wy it earst net bewust binne. Leafde geneart ferwûne herten en ferieniget brutsen relaasjes. Leafde, opbouwe, stimulearret, en gemak. Leafde feroardielet net, as ôfwize, it omfettet. Wy binne rap te ferjitten dat, wylst wy noch ALLE SINNERS wiene, Kristus stoar, syn fergeat bloed waard beskikber steld: De rike, de earmen, it swarte, de wite, (en elke skaad der tusken)de rjochte, de gay, de heiten, de hopeleaze, de dakleazen, de ûnderdrukten, de ôfwiisde, de religieuze, de islamyske, de terrorist, it bern molestert de dief, de bankpresidint, de advokaat, de brânwachtman, politikus, dokter, en elke oare persoan dy't elk in azem hat op dizze ierde helle, Jezus stoar foar har. As der in protest moat wurde makke, lit it dan by de poarten fan 'e hel wêze troch de breid fan Kristus, stelt dat wy sille leafde, wy sille tsjinje, wy sille ferjaan lykas Jezus foar ús dien hat.

  14. EricAntwurdzje

    Wêrom is it Afro-Amerikaansk, Ik neam mysels net Iersk-Amerikaansk, Ik bin gewoan Amerikaansk, Ik bin hjir berne, net yn Ierlân. Sjoch dat is wêr't segregaasje yn groepen begjint te ferdielen, dan binne wy ​​better dan jo, begjint. Dat segregaasje fokt rasisme, beide wiene yn 'e ferkearde, Trayvon, wie foar slamming Georges’ holle yn 'e grûn, plus as hy neat ferkeard die, wêrom soe hy it gewoan net neilibje? George soe moatte hawwe harke nei de dispatcher en lit de cops it omgean. Mar it baarnen fan 'e Amerikaanske flagge, net Afro-Amerikaansk, Meksikaansk Amerikaansk, Iersk Amerikaansk, Ingelsk Amerikaansk, as Skotske Amerikaanske flagge, gewoan Amerikaansk, is ferkeard. Dat is lykas stappen op 'e herten fan elke Amerikanen dy't stoar en beskermet alles wêr't it foar stiet. De deabedrigingen foar famylje Georges en talleaze yn 'e namme fan Trayvon-moarden dy't hawwe bard binne ferkeard. De Hear seit dat jo oare wang nei har ta kin, of binne wy ​​ferjitten wa't hjir yn lieding is. Trayvon wie gjin hillige, en George wie gjin moardner, se wiene beide slachtoffer fan omstannichheid. Nimmen hie it slach krigen en gjinien soe it libben moatte ferlern hawwe. This was all a political play for power and the great deceiver has got what he wanted. Stay rooted in your word not media.

    • beansAntwurdzje

      I would LOVE to be considered just an American. Not an African American. But society alas will not allow me that. I am just as American as any one else. But the media has caused so much of a divide.. and people have bought into it.
      I remember one of the first jobs I had. A white lady sat next to me and told me.. “So do you know you are the first African -American we have hired?” She smiled and looked so proud. Underwilens, I felt ashamed, like some spectacle monkey that arrived at the zoo ready to show them how well their “earste” black employee would do. Why did she have to point that out and make me feel soweird? I just wanted to be a normal kid at her second job out of college, but instead I became a paranoid mess..
      So why do I say African American? Goed, do I have a choice?

  15. gabetavianoAntwurdzje

    Awesome words, Reis. Sorry you’ve had to go through the situations you have. I admire you for speaking out about this, and for reminding those of us that have not. Press on!!!

  16. DavidAntwurdzje

    Trip Sharpton,

    This had nothing to do with racism. Oh, I forgot, you are black so you think that you have the moral authority to accuse anyone of racism. The rest of us are all racists. Sorry, that garbage has been stinking long enough. Time to empty the trash and yes it is time to move on.

  17. geebeeAntwurdzje

    I AM sorry you have experienced racial profiling in your life. ik, te, have been stared at and ignored for just saying
    “Goeie moarn” to store clerks or folks I pass on the street. I have also been threatened and told I did not belong in a neighborhood and had better leave, because I am white. My daughter has been denied her right to vote twice, but I don’t think she isdisenfranchised”. But then I don’t have hate mongers like Al Sharpton and theNAACP speaking for me; only about me. As a nation, and as the Body of Christ, I think we need to think LESS about race and our differences and diversity, We need to get back to being thegreat American melting potas a nation, and to remind ourselves that we are all equal at the foot of the cross as the Church. The more race and racism is discussed, the more hatred I experience, which in turn, as a survival mechanism, makes me suspicious of other races and less likely to extend the Gospel to them. And if you don’t want to be treated like a possible thug, or wise guy, or redneck, don’t dress and act like one.

  18. Leslie Pollard StiversAntwurdzje

    I loved this post. I appreciate hearing your experiences and my heart breaks to remember the reality that profiling happens every day. I can’t help, lykwols, to ask what you and others think of what this case says of reverse racism. It seems to me that the black community right now is completely ignoring the facts of the case (you can watch the whole thing on YouTube) and singling in on the profiling thing (no one knows for sure if Zimmerman did so and the character evidence in the trial suggests that GZ was not as racist as people have made him out to be). What if Trayvon was high (marijuana in his system, found in the autopsy)? What if his character suggests he might have been a thug? What if he did in fact pursue George and throw the first blow? These things and much more were discussed at length in the trial and the evidence suggests that though Zimmerman could have made wiser choices (not gotten out of his truck, for example), he didn’t do anything illegal. We don’t know all the answers to these questions, but just because a young man is black doesn’t mean that if he looks and acts like a thug he won’t be profiled as one. No one seems to acknowledge that this violent kid (with his father in Sanford because he was suspended for fighting, stealing, drug use, etc) made wrong decisions too. I want to see a post from a black man or woman that cries out for an end to the thuggery within in their community. I want us minorities to be about the business of teaching our young men and women to look more like Christ. Though my two young boys are a bit lighter-skinned than I am and may not have the same experiences that I did, I will tell them to keep smiling at people who clutch their bags and never forsake doing good. I don’t deny that racism exists, but it seems to me that it is flagrantly worse from blacks right now. The white hatred seethes with evil and ignorance. People are doing the very thing they hate. There is no peace, no forgiveness, ultimately no faith in God to right the wrongs in the world or to trust Him to redeem it all. Individuals jump on the opportunity to call someone a racist. Christians have got to hold up truth in all things. We can’t play the race game, we are about changing culturenot making a better “Swart” culture orwhite” kultuer, but holding up and exalting a Judeo-Christian culture that encourages things like love, peace, and forgiveness. Christians must see this case in light of the truth, and not participate in the war cries and witch hunt that is taking place right now. Pray for both families. Christ have mercy on us all. More of my thoughts on race & culture here: http://wp.me/p2C5Cy-VY I welcome visitors and feedback.

  19. Scott Lee SherwoodAntwurdzje

    As a fellow brother in Christ, I will first say that I know this is a complex issue that the church as a whole seems to get mired in all the time with no real resolution, even if thesolution” (Jezus) is right next to us. So I do want to show the love of God in my response to your blog, no matter what my convictions.

    In reading your blog, your point seemed to indicate that GZ should have been convicted of 2nd degree murder simply because heracially profiledTM. This is not how the judicial system works. You can’t ask a jury to give you amoralwin and mete out justice simply because the other guy doesn’t like the color of your skin. The facts are that GZ is not white despite what the media/NAACP/Celebrity Hollywood/and Rev Al would like you to believe. He is of a mixed ethnicity of Hispanic/Latino descent and grew up in a multicultural family. Hy “profiledTM because of burglaries that had recently happened in the gated community. With a hoodie on and jeans, following someone from behind, you can’t tell what race/ethnicity they are. I coach football and wear hoodies all the time in the fall, and my own dog has barked at me coming into my house when I’ve had my hoodie on because she didn’t recognize me. You can’t walk into most banks or credit unions wearing a hoodie. They will stop and ask you to remove it. Same goes for hats and sunglasses in most financial institutions. Are theyracially profiling”? Fansels net, mar it is “profilearring”, and this isn’t wrong. We ALL do it to each other all the time. And yes, I have been followed by store security before, and I have been stopped by police and questioned before, and in every convenience store near most high schools, they won’t let students come in with backpacks and they limit the number of students in the store. I live in California and the city I live is multicultural. In most of the stores like my local Safeway and Walmart, the security or loss prevention teams have many minorities of black, asian, Hispanic ethnicities. If they suspect someone of possibly committing a crime, or fitting aprofile”, is it racism if they follow them around the store or keep an eye on them, or even stop them for questioning if they are both black..? I’ve seen it happen, so it’s a legitimate question.
    It seems to me that most of the folks that are upset with the verdict and are being the most vocal about it are ranting that somehow TM’s civil rights were violated. In today’s day and age, with rampant crime and disregard for human life, where words like HONOR and INTEGRITY are lost in a sea ofwhat’s in it for meand a rampant entitlement mentality, most of these folks couldn’t give you the proper definition ofcivil rights”. They line up behind jackwagons like Rev Al Sharpton, and the NAACP and exploit social ignorance from people like Rachel Jeantel and make her the poster child for their racism case. Werklik? These are the folks picked to fight thecivil rightsracism battle for the black community? These are who you want to stand with? Please. I think Dr. Martin Luther King would weep if he saw what a circus folks like these have turned the racism and civil rights fight, into. The fact is that racism is not the main enemy anymore for black America. Not even close. Black on Black crime, birthed by the continual breakdown of the family unit, and catalyzed by a system that says that the gov’t owes you something, and will take care of you, is a good place to start, if you really want to hit the biggest giant the black community faces. Underwilens, there are some that focus on solutions and are tackling some of these mindsets. The folks at National Center for Public Policy Research and their Project 21 Initiative are folks that I will align myself with and support all day long.
    Ultimately, Christ’s love will win. It always does. And it will happen one heart at a time.
    Let me end by saying that I know that racism exists and happens everyday. But we are bigger than that. Every race or ethnicity that has experienced the vile bite of racism has been created by God to overcome and be bigger than that hatred. The great men and women of black American history primarily made their mark for generations by not letting racism consume them. They rose above the circumstances and prevailed anyway. They could have quit and used racism as an excuse, but they didn’t. That same perseverance and strength from God Almighty is there for any of us to tap into no matter what any of us face.
    Tank foar lêzen, and God Bless You..!!

  20. alan_dAntwurdzje

    Reis, I appreciate the educated, nonpartisan, Christian viewpoint of this post. Just to get it out there, I’m a 26yr old white grad student from AL living in OK. lykwols, after graduating from Auburn 4 jierren lyn, I went to live in the D.R. Congo for 2 jier. Ik jou ta, growing up, before I was a Christian, I was as much of a racist as 85% of the suburban culture around me was. lykwols, the new-heart that Christ has given me has changed that.
    The point is, while living in the Congo, literally everyone around me at any given time was black. I loved the people I lived around, worked around, and almost everyone I met. lykwols, in that culture, there were still people I profiled. Young men walking in the market without anything to sell, or any interest in anything, for example. My pockets were cleared twice, though I was quick enough to grab the guys and get my nokia brick back. Ek, the police were *generally* corrupt. I profiled them every time I saw anyone in uniform. I was stopped, arrested, or harassed more times than I can count by the police/soldiers, as were many of the locals that I knew. Does that make it racist for me to profile those types of people because they happened to be black? Op deselde wize, how is it racist when I move my wife to the other side of my body when walking past a white man that I think looks suspicious? Its the same concept, and I submit that it is not racism. My point is that profiling is a natural human instinct and *can be* racist, but it isn’t always.

  21. AdolfAntwurdzje

    If any person doesn’t want to be a criminal, perhaps they shouldn’t wear the uniform. Hjoed, hast 70 years after world war 2. What would you think of someone wearing a nazi uniform? It’s just clothes right?

  22. gdoggydog05Antwurdzje

    ek. i feel it is racist. to award or discipline based on race. and it is racist that if your a white journalist, lykas my….you get fired if you say the wrong thing about race. but if your a black journalist you can say that more white kids must die, in order for America to understand racism (link at bottom). look, this is my point. i am only harping on these things, because i want christians to understand that there will always be race issues on both sides. i don’t think we should go the same route as the world and latch on to them. for every instance of racism against blacks, you can find some against other races. although i do understand that slavery was a horrid thing and my ancesters, truly, will never understand white my black brothers and sisters ancestors have gone through.we should not cater to any race to try toequalize” dingen. proof in point is that the one true God would never do this!!! Would God almighty hand out scholarships based on race??? NEVER NEVER NEVER. Maybe based on income. But God would never show favor based on race. Israel was chosen, not because of anything in them, but God’s good purposes only. Myn “old friendsresent this, and it only increases their racist thoughts. “Handouts” en “double standardsanger them. And the argument that sort-of saysi just cant understand the struggleis deeply hurtful to me. it says that i can only go so far with my black brothersi’ll never really be their brother though, cause I don’t understand what its like to be them. It says that the experiences of the black man divide us, more than Christ unites us. That is what I see this article unintentionally saying. I actually do know what it is like to be profiled. I was a kid once. We all go through tough times. You may not know what its like to have a mom with cancer, lykas my. Or you may not know what it was like to be sent to home for bad kids when i was 12 jier âld, neglected by my white, affluent, suburban family and left to wonder why they didn’t love me. Let’s not start keeping score here. This totally is a warped improper perspective to focus on those unique experiences. Let us come together and rejoice that we have been given grace when we deserved death.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nRv2UVDOg0

    • Alex EricssonAntwurdzje

      I HIGHLY DOUBT that Trip is seeking to alienate brothers and sisters on the basis of race. He’s a black man in a predominantly white church for which he has often and without pause expressed gratefulness. But there are elements of being black in America that are unique and thoroughly incongruent with other cultural experiences!

      So PLEASE, I beg of you all, understand the difference between genuine empathy and meaningful sympathy. As we walk with our brothers and sisters in Christ, we will have few opportunities to counsel from a place empathy borne of shared experience but we will often be called to the patient, loving work of meaningful sympathy. That is where we listen to the hardships people have experienced, never minimizing the validity of his or her suffering by offering counter-examples to trump their experience, and frequently assuming that our counsel, though it may serve the individual, will not be an immediate panacea to assuage their pain, frustration, or even anger.

      Regardless of any flawed perspectives on this case or race, too many of
      us in the church (esp. via social media) wax eloquent on the things of the world but end up
      sounding more like Job’s insensitive friends. Now is a time when people are confused and very upset. People of ALL colors are displeased with the outcome of this case. Most of them need patience and genuine comfort. Not a lecture on the legal system orcorrupt media”, not bait-and-switch examples, nor disdainful political punditry. Point them to Jesus like you with gentleness.

  23. Dinah RobinsonAntwurdzje

    When I was a young girl, about elementary aged, I was racially profiled in what was then Eckerd Drug Store (now CVS). I didn’t know at that age what was happening to me, but I knew as a child it wasn’t right. I was with my mom and I had earned $20. I thought I was rich. I wanted to buy some candy and other things in the store. But one of the sales clerks saw me walking the aisle alone and she assumed that I was going to steal or do something wrong I guess. She followed me all around the store. It felt annoying to have this lady follow me. I finally found my mom on one of the aisles and told her I didn’t feel like shopping anymore. I told her when we left the store what happened and she said the lady probably thought I was going to steal. It made me sad that she thought a little girl looked like a thief. Fast forward to being a grown woman and the same thing happening to me as an adult in a nice store. I was naive to think that kind of thing shouldn’t happen these days. But unfortunately, racism is not dead. Neither is intolerance for the differences of others whether people are Americans or immigrants, gay or straight, fat or skinny, educated or under-educated, rich or poor. Instead of celebrating our differences we are justtoleratingeach other. We all bear some prejudices and I know personally I need to work on loving my neighbor as I love myself. You may not be able to change someone’s
    prejudices, but you can change your attitude about how you deal with those who
    pre-judgeyou and how you respond to it. I have a son who is black
    and Dominican. I want him to grow up having respect for all cultures whether he
    chooses to identify himself as African American or Hispanic or both. He will be taught
    to speak English and Spanish. He will be taught the history of both cultures.
    And most importantly he will be taught to love God and to love people. I believe it begins at home and what we live is what we learn and sadly what is reflected outside in our world.

    • Troy FrasierAntwurdzje

      Mam, Ik bin wyt, and I have experienced the same thing both as a child and as an adult…. I don’t know that those instances were race related. Yn feite, haha, many times clerks followed me around as a kid, teenager, etc. Even now I am sure cameras follow me when I walk into a Wal-Mart, as my friend who works LP says I walk like a thief it seems…. Anyway, . it bart! :)

  24. Nathanial PolingAntwurdzje

    I side with Charles Barkley and Bill Cosby on this onethe media blew a sad story into a national rioting mess. I hope Zimmerman moves forward with the slander lawsuits on NBC and ABC.

  25. George LewisAntwurdzje

    in all of the discussion we need to have the law itself nullified. Please support my effort @ moveon.org . A petition The Trayvon Mandate can be found there. WE NEED AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT Please sign , send circulate , retweet and ask all of your friends , family and contact to do the same. Without a change in this bad law this situation can happen again.

  26. TiaAntwurdzje

    “Dizze soarten fan útgongspunten binne walgelijk en falsk. God makke alle minsken yn syn byld mei wearde en wurdich. Mar allegearre fan ús binne sûndich en net om it werjaan fan Gods byld as wy moat. Alle single ien fan ús kin bikeare fen ús sûnden, fertrouwen Kristus, en makke wurde rjocht troch ús Skepper. Mar rasisme picks en kiest hokker minsken dy wierheden tapst wurde op. rasisme seit, "Ik bin weardefol en goed, en al fan dy minsken binne goddeleazen.” – Word Up Brother Lee!

    When the Kingdom takes the blinders off to the role of systemic oppression in American Christianity, especially in the form of White Supremacy, capitalism and patriarchy, we will break from the chains of bondage. These are the principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places the Word speaks of.

  27. mr. 116Antwurdzje

    A black woman shot warning shots in Florida because she was scared that her abusive husband would attack her. You know what happened, she was sentenced to prison for 20 jier.

    George Zimmerman shoots a young black kid in Florida, and he was found innocent?!? Werklik?? Racism, most definitely, was an issue in this case. Tink der oer nei.

  28. lewritesAntwurdzje

    I am white/native American, and though the Native in me is a very small percentage, my skin tone is very dark and I look very much like a Native. I’ve been discriminated against by whites, by blacks, and by just about every race you can think of.

    DC Talk’s song Colored People sums up my thoughts quite nicely:
    We’re colored people and we live in a tainted place
    We’re colored people and they call us the human race
    We’ve got a history so full of mistakes
    And we are colored people who depend on a Holy grace.
    The media is very much to blame. But our own predispositions, our own actions perpetuate what the media feeds to us. If we would look past color, if we would see in ourselves the judgments we pass on others based on looks or actions, when we don’t even know themmaybe we could work to tear down these barriers and not give the media any more fodder.

  29. Joanette D. ClemonsAntwurdzje

    This case is not only about the SYG law it is also about the self defense argument. The child was in essence found guilty. This case is also about how the law views the responsibility of the person, GZ, who put themselves in harms way. Where does personal responsibility, common sense and self control play a part in this situation? When Rachel Jenteal (not sure of the spelling) was interviewed, she saidYour parents teach you that when someone suspicious is following you, you should run. No parent teaches their child to stand their. As hja die, they would have no child.TM was a child. He was described to police by GZ as a person in their late teens. This is not conjecture, this is fact. Trayvon was a child growing into adulthood. When GZ called police, he did the right thing, when he decided to go against the will of authority, he lost control and the situation turned out all wrong. Spiritual ex.: How many times have we prayed and asked God to help us handle a situation and we lean to our own understanding rather than listening to the true voice of authority to see us through. Trayvon is not here b/c GZ leaned to his own understanding. He took matters into his own hands after being given clear and concise instructions about what NOT to do. I wanted to know what GZ’s role as a volunteer neighborhood watch officer consisted of. I found this book at http://www.usaonwatch.org/assets/publications/0_NW_Manual_1210.pdf Please read page 27 of Chapter 6. This man overstepped his bounds and ran right OUT OF personal responsibility into trouble. He disobeyed direct instructions and confronted a frightened child, who was a young man and an athlete. He bit off more than he could chew when he stepped outside the will and instructions of authority. Suppose TM had been an experienced killer who took GZ’s gun and killed him instead? This tragic incident opened the door for a number of topics to be discussed. Including, but not limited to, profilearring, personal responsibility, The Stand Your Ground Law, what is the real definition of self defense, and most of all the re-evaluation how race should be viewed the minds of everyone. Everything seen in the darkness of our own hearts and minds will eventually come to light. This tragic and ridiculous chain of errors is meant to bring about a greater level of understanding, dialogue and awareness. This case has sent shock waves throughout the world. It is not an American history story, it is not Black history story, it is a human and civil rights story. No one deserves to die based upon stereotypical perceptions and a lack of self control.

  30. BQPhotographyAntwurdzje

    DUDE!! Tige tank foar it pleatsen dit!! I posted something similar on my facebook wall. I feel we can move on from racism but yet we can still talk about it to fix the problem!! Not argue and continue to profile any race. I am a firm believer in God and this country must turn back to God. (2 Chronicles 7:14) We need more black people like you and I, who can step up and speak against the racism and educate one another. We should stand against the people who stir the racism up!! Nochris tank. I too have dealt with racial comments and actions by others, but I don’t let all of it get to me because I know who I am in Christ!! Tank!!

  31. MerkAntwurdzje

    sûnder fraach, there are those with ‘racialmotivations for what they dopositive or negative. Some assume the worst just because of the level of melanin. But I wonder if there’s something else going on in situations like this that reveals more of a cultural gap than a racial one. Bygelyks, if I see a woman walking down the street in very short shorts, low cut tank-top with breasts hanging out, lots of make-up, high heels (not good for walking), ensfh, I will assume this is a woman who isto use an antiquated wordloose. This gives me zero right to physically or verbally assault her, to make suggestive remarks, etc. Contrast that with another woman’s attiremodest, but attractive pants, skirt, dress, etc. – right out of the LandsEnd (or pick your style) catalog. She COULD be just as loose as woman #1, but I think it’s unlikely.

    Likewise, if I see a young black man walking toward me dressed as a ‘gangbanger’ – I move aside and get nervous. It’s POSSIBLE he’s a local youth pastor and would share the Gospel with me sooner than say a hurtful word. But what’s with the ‘banger attire? Oarsom, a black man walking down the street in 1) Lands End attire 2) traditional African garb 3) work jeans/boots with white t-shirtI suddenly have all of my fears mitigated.

    My point is that attire is a form of cultural expression. And not all cultures are equal. If whatwhite” (or light brown, red, yellow) America sees in music videos, the evening news, newsweeklies, etc. of the young black man in trouble is what young black men who are upstanding members of the community wearthat will communicate a conflicting message.
    Imagine me wearing a t-shirt with a confederate flag on it and expecting blacks to just understand that I’m not a racist. I just love the Confederate South.

    Likewise, dress like a gangster, don’t be surprised when you’re confused with one.

    Wearing a ‘hoodiealone wouldn’t/shouldn’t do this of course. But folks who think they’re clothing/attire doesn’t communicate or (worse) will admit it does, but places the burden on the observer to flesh all the differences out is a fool.

  32. James LeeAntwurdzje

    High profile cases like this sensationalize and underlying problem between what we faultfully callraces.

    As a white boy from suburbs of Detroit, I would probably respond the same way to Zimmerman following me, regardless of the activities I was up to.

    Zimmermans spiritual state impacts his view of the Lords command to …”Not resist an evil man.Likely, Trayvon Martin’s adherence to this command was lacking as well. As disciples of Christ, we should remember to not be surprised when the world acts likethe world.

    Our best weapon against social injustices and racial divides is to adhere to the commands of Christ.

    Thabiti Anyabwile gave a timely message in 2008 aboutBearing the Image”. It is worth a listenhttp://t4g.org/media/2010/04/bearing-the-image-identity-the-work-of-christ-and-the-church-session-ii/

    The majority of people have identities and lives that have been based on assumption regarding the notion of “race.” We need to change toward a more biblical theology of ethnicity. As earste, it is important to define terms and use them properly, especially “race” versus “ethnicity.” The Christian needs to understand man’s unity in Adam, union with Christ and unity in the church.

  33. RustyAntwurdzje

    We’ve ALL been on the receiving end of racism, probably. If not, we will. Someone from some other race is going to make a decision about us, based on how we look or sound.

    We’ve all been guilty of committing it, te, to some small degree. Any time you see someone and make a judgmenteven if it’s kept internalbased on how that person looks or soundsthat’s prejudice.

  34. Antha REdNOTEAntwurdzje

    De 911 operator saidWe don’t need you to follow himThat’s enough for me. The trial would’ve never been needed and Trayvon would probably be getting more kisses from his Dad (as seen in pictures) if Zimmerman stayed hisbuttin the car AND on the phone tilthe cops came!!!

  35. LouieAntwurdzje

    Frankly, I am ashamed that some of these commentators call themselves Christian, I almost hope that some of them are not. Thank you so much Trip for putting your heart on this blog, apart of yourself and your life experiences that we do not know about or may not understand. I am a White, Male and 24 years of age and I have many black friends, very similar to Trip, who have been profiled wrongly and I have been in the presence of these attacks against my friends, in shock, feeling helpless. I think some of the commentators are sorely misinterpreting Trip’s words or using them as a sounding board for their personal agendas and politics. Trip hasn’t said anything about Zimmerman being a racist. Zimmerman made a wrong judgment that cost a young man his life, a fact that has changed one family forever, at least Zimmerman lives and breathes. And this event has triggered an outcry that forces everyone to examine their biases and to look at laws that are hurting us all. It makes me sick that people cannot simply see that the laws created to protect some like myself (with unearned privileges) do not apply to those who are viewed as theother”. Some have mentioned the law and say Zimmerman was justified to follow Trayvon but was he justified in God’s eyes to follow someone because he looked suspicious. In the end I pray Zimmerman comes to know Christ as his personal savior and turn his horrible choice into something positive that God can use to bring further healing. Nothing is impossible with God.

    • Nathanial PolingAntwurdzje

      How do you know Zimmerman wasn’t a Christian already? Did you watch the trial or listen to the soundbites. I think you make a lot of judgmental comments in this post about people’s Christianity. I know young white teenagers who have been profiled as well because they had tattoos. Stop making assumptions that this was a race case and assumptions about others hearts. Zimmerman could have had bad intentions but nothing led there in the trial when people got to hear the full phone calls, not the spliced ones that the media played to drum up a racial issue. Zimmerman faced a jury and was acquitted under self-defense. Maybe some people should start to question the music that African Americans listen to that promote violence over peace. Martin could have went back to the house, instead he chose to try to beat up Zimmerman.

  36. dismayedAntwurdzje

    hello all. First and farmost I am a christian. Secondly I am an afirican-american woman. I’ve read the comments here and they do not surprise me. I am horrified by the violence in this country (the black on black, the judicial towards blacks,the crime element of minority youths of towards the general public, general public towards minoriity youths). To tell you the truth I am scared,and this is why……….when we as a society gloss over the societal stains racism has caused we are in grave danger of returning our society back to that in which it was in the 50’s. furthermore, when we think for a second that America has reached some state of a race free utopia we are in grave danger of repeating the same ill that plagued the nation 50 jierren lyn. I think people like to gloss it over because it’s easier than facing it and confronting it. So for you it might not be a race thing, because you will never have to hear your elders discuss how the details reminds the days of their youth,experiencing things you and i could never dream of

    .For you it might not be a race thing because you will never bear inside your body a black male child and wonder will he live to see 21. For you it might not be a race thing because the mere look of you is and will never be seen as a threat. If i had those options it would not be race thing for me either. My heart goes out to all those who have been victims of crime due to violence. I never will and never have condoned violence. lykwols, also will never condone a system that condones shooting somebody based on appearances,or possible reasons why they are out at night,. I will never condone a system that will take my money is accepted,but I or my son is not. I will never condone the state of things as they are. America is no utopia. I feel the effects of being a minority in America everyday,and even in the church.

    • bergymanAntwurdzje

      I’m a Christian too. I agree that racism still exists. De wierheid is, it will always exist. The enemy will make sure of that. But thisyou will never understand my sideposturing doesn’t help. We have white idiots that perpetuate racism. And that is what they are: stupid racists. Then there are black idiots that perpetuate the stereotype that promotes the profiling. The focus should be all of the rest of us rising above these idiots and coming together and repair the divide. Change the narrative. As for young black males… wow. I have no idea how a community deals with that, but I know there are answers out there. I know God has a plan and a solutionand it isn’t division based on how someone looks. His solution is about UNITY, love and restoration.

      • dismayedAntwurdzje

        hi bergyman. I respect and agree with, your views. One note though- my view is notyou will never understand my siderather its a shedding of light on the why this not aboutmy sideor your side. This is about the in-just patterns this country has yet to rectify.This is the lot that America has given to minorities. elders reliving horrifying experiences with jim crow. Children afraid they will be targeted by some crooked form of the judicial system. Male family members harassed for DWB'(driving while black) I have worked tirelessly for many years unifying folks and bringing racial awareness to the church and to the un-churched alike. I’m not saying understand my side .I’m saying respect it. I WILL continue my work to shed light on the subject,because that’s what GOD intended me to do and the church needs it. With that said- turning a blind eye to the ills of injustice be it racial,social economical,regarding abortion or sex trafficing,is also very wrong. It’s also something I can not do. On a brighter note I have seen ,confession, and forgiveness between races on a massive scale at Christians prayer events and it was beautiful time of respect, confession,ferjouwing (on both sides) OHHH was that something to behold it was like pslms 133:1-3 in real time. Feet were washed,tears were shed, and all parties(Swart,white,latino,and asian) repented before GOD for ought against the other. I long for the day whenbrother love will bind man to manas mentioned in the great hymn ode to joy. I work and pray to no end to see it happen.

        • bergymanAntwurdzje

          Thank you for your reply. I didn’t mean to imply you were doing theyou don’t understand…” thing, I just meant I don’t want that response being the answer. I hear that a great deal when I’ve tried to join in the conversation regarding some of these problems and how we as a society can overcome them. I think there HAS to be understanding and solutions and change on both sides. I agree with you. It is happening. I just hate how long it’s taking and all the harmed/lost lives and lost potentialand I HATE the division. Thank you for fighting the good fight. I hope you know that I don’t pretend to understand the emotions, I am just looking to getting ways to the next stepsrecovery, healing, ienheid.

        • dismayedAntwurdzje

          ja. i understand and we need you in the fight . I’m sorry that some one devalued your contribution to the conversation and/ or solution to these problems. and I apologize on their behalf.Would you forgive all of us who treated those who want to help find a better way as if they don’t matter in this discussion just because his or her skin wasn’t black. I believe we each have something to contribute to the other person ,experiences to be gained,love to be shared,encouragement and fellowship to be had (Swart,white,yellow,brown,blue etc). i firmly believe that. God bless you bergyman…..one day pslms 133:1-3 will be a reality if not here on the earth ,definitely in the one to come.

  37. Troy FrasierAntwurdzje

    Hey Trip, Love ya and all, but honestlyit sounds like on the issue of race, you have some bitterness. I am sorry your skin color has made you the receiving end of some discrimination. My skin color has leaved me on the receiving end of some discrimination from the black community, (although I have never been tagged by the police). Its a part of life, man. I just wish I were discriminated for the cross, not for the color of my skin in those instances. it bart, it’s not beautiful, but we have to forgive those who do it and praise God the father for His love and diversity. And not be bitter, man. Let go of those past instances. Just like you shouldn’t treat others wrongly, you must forgive and free yourself from the temptation of victimization when you are judged. Everyone is judged. If not by skin color, by body shape, location, leeftyd, etc. I have been judged countless times for being from Florida in the midwest. And for being young. Etc. We will always be judged, ya know? We must forgive and show love to those who are ignorant. :) God bless ya, Reis!

    • NicoleAntwurdzje

      By pointing out that racism exists against black people does not nullify that black people can discriminate too. We live in a fallen world and all those actions are wrong. Working to open dialogue does not mean that unforgiveness exists. (Hello, Trip Lee’s wife is not black lol) lykwols, biblically, peace does not equal passive. There are MANY calls in the Word of God to be active about injustice and oppression in all forms. We should be active against social justice, ALL FORMS with the ultimate goal of showing the beautiful contrast of Jesus Christ in this fallen world.

  38. bergymanAntwurdzje

    We’re asking people to be superhuman. We all use information (some based on our own situations, some third party reliable, and some third party unreliable) to tell us what to do in certain parts of town, and around people that look a certain way. We all profile. The blonde girl Lizzi below may have had people view her as stupid or easy based on how she looks. Fair? Probably not. She has a choice, she can either try to convince all the other blondes out there to act smart, be smart to not perpetuate the stereotype OR she can just try and do her best to not be linked with thetype”. My guess (and I could be way off) is that the store owner commonly was shoplifted by people that looked/acted like Dinah Robinsonfair? Hielendal net. But is it the store owner who is acting irresponsibly? Let me say it this wayif person #1 looks/dresses/acts like people who have committed crimes in their store or in their neighborhood. (I’m making up hypotheticals here) The objective statistics say: 7 out of 10 times when this happens, a crime is committed. You may say, they still shouldn’t profile. but at what point in the statistics do you say, I’m still going to think the best of this person. 9 out of 10? how about 99/100? How about 999/1000? What if you have an Arab family in your neighborhood and you see him unloading dozens of bags of fertilizer into his garage? Maybe he just likes his grass to be really green. Are we supposed to always assume the best in people?

    My view on this is that we have a racially divided and politically divided and economically divided country. We can’t really do much about the economicshistory always tells us that we have rich and poor. But politically and racially we can say “Nee”. I have no problem with having pockets of people banding together in America because of interests or because they come from the same country and they share traditions of that country. But I think this is what happens when we have a bunch of people who have banded together (probably because of outside and inside factors) because of how they look on the outside, I think we will continue to have problems untilblack peopleexist in all parts of a city, vote both sides of the aisle politically, work in all different industries, don’t require/get special hiring/voting laws, go to college at the same rates, and marry people not based on skin color. The media wants an emotional issue. The parties want an emotional issue (to spur a strong voter turnout). The challenge is do we allow them to play usthis isn’t an US versus THEM argument. This is awe need to all play together”. This is awe need to accept that there are idiots out there that will assume we are who they think we are, but I’m going to ignore them because I know who I am.

    We had black foster kids (7 en 9 jr old). De 7 yr old girl told usEveryone knows that white people hate black people and that black people hate white people.That made me sad. Someone taught her that with words. At 7 jr old, that become part of her makeup. We need to stop following the media/politic rhetoric and try and build bridges and not jump to conclusions about people and when people make conclusions about us, we need to let it fall off our backs because holding grudges only increases the racial divide and we need this rift repaired.

  39. RumplestiltskinAntwurdzje

    A very highly-charged trial, and not w/o reason. Our present dealings, withwhateverwill always be tainted with our disagreeable past. I had parents, that apparenty werecolor blind”, and for this I am thankful. When I was about three, and playing with my neighborhood friends one day in the sandbox, this is what I sawone by one, a parent would come up, and say something likecome on Johnny, we’ve got to go” of, “suzie, time for your nap”. One by one, they all left, except one. I didn’t think anything about it that day, but some thirty or forty years later, I realized what happened: that last little boy was black. I tell you, when I realized exactly WHAT happened that day, I was shocked, and angrythat boy that the other kids were beingprotectedfrom was my friend. I did not know what “Swart” was. Still amazing.
    No, ik bin 71, and have had a one-on-one relationship with Jesus Christ, for 37 jier. THAT, more than any discussion of “ras” has really opened my eyes, let me explainin the book of Ephesians, it says that God, made of the Jews, and also of the gentiles, ONE NEW MAN. Folks, this means you, and me, as long as we have that relationship with Christ. When we STEP INTO CHRIST, weput on”, of “come intothe ONE NEW MAN. Sa. OUTSIDE of Christ, we can put on an act, we can try to be good, do the right thing, etc. But out natural strength will always run out, and we WILL fail again, anytime we areoutside of Christ”, or not under His influence. Make sense?
    Outside of Christ, there IS NO LASTING UNITYotherwise we would have had that, long ago. Sa, come into Christ, where I am no longer white, I’m your brother, and I’ve got your back.

  40. MollieAntwurdzje

    I agree that racism is an issue. But saying that it is only against the african americans is wrong. I have been profiled many many times in my life. I am a young white girl.I have blonde curly hair and blue eyes and a southern accent. I have been cuffed by the cops because they were looking for a suspect. I have had a gun held to my head by someone intending to kill me. I have gone completely without. I have had black friends quit speaking to me because I am white andcan’t possible understand”. We all have the same struggles. We all face the fact that very few people are going to try to get to know us before they judge us. My husband and I have five children of our own and recently adopted two of his cousins who happen to be black. I can honestly tell you that as much as we have been to the store as a family no black people have ever even remotely been kind to us or truly acknowledged us until we adopted these two boys. As if the level of pigmentation they have in their skin makes them different from us. We are all equal are we not? Then why is this still a white vs black thing? Why is it simply not a community of all people coming together and acknowledging that it is at it’s core a heart problem and not a race problem? When my girls grow up and begin to look for their husbands I will not care if that man is black or white or chinese. I will only ask two things, does he love the Lord with all of his heart, and does he have Jesus in his heart. If the answer to these two things are yes then I will know he will be good to my girls. They same will go for my sons when they look for a wife. To make everything a race issue is dangerous no matter what side is doing it. Let us just rise above and call it what it is….a heart problem.

  41. LolaMitche2011Antwurdzje

    Having a multi-racial family I completely understand many different perspectives. I will say thatwhiteAmerica will just simply never understand thecoloredperspective. How could they? People will show more sympathy with people they can relate to. Blacks can name 100 different cases of racism in their own lives, while whites will also name 100 different situations and justifications for why they believe what they believe. With more whites numerically in jail than any race, and more blacks percentage wise in jail then whites, it’s obvious crimes can be done by anyone. We all just see what we want to see. Mei dat wurdt sein, I would say we all need to just strive to do the best for our communities and pull them up. Black Americans should now know that they cannot expect a sympathetic ear from whites, and Whites should know that that they will never understand the experiences people of color go through. And honestly that’s okay.

    • daveAntwurdzje

      Lola, I think to useblacks” & “Whites” as you have in this post in such broad terms is very much overstated. African Americans are not the enemy of Caucasians. Caucasians are not the enemy of African Americans. Individuals with sin in their hearts wrongfully judge one another. It plays itself out in between all different kinds of nationalities because of the pride of individuals who choose to flesh that pride out through their skin color. I see it between neighboring Asian countries here in Thailand as well. It’s surely not limited to African Americans & Caucasians. Please don’t let the ways you’ve been hurt add to the lack of reconciliation in this matter. Change can really happen.
      Christ died to save sinners. And that is where the change starts when it comes to these things you mentioned. Individuals getting their old selves crucified & given new lenses to see the world. It will happen from person to person as they get their prideful, narrow worldview rocked by Christ’s Kingdom way.
      Christ bless you, Lola.

  42. KSStrongAntwurdzje

    @gdoggydog05 wrote “all my black christian
    brothers focus on martin, and don’t even acknowledge the fact that it is wrong in the first place to choose this trajedy as more important those the hundreds of similar trajedys that occur daily.”- You are assuming that AA Christians
    view this tragedy above all the others. The fact is that this case has been in the news, and therefore, it will naturally be a topic of conversation more so than other things that people are unaware of. The apostle Paul chose, at one time, to highlight the sin of Herod (marrying his brother’s wife) over all the other sin that was occurring at that time. He specifically called Herod out.
    While we know that Paul did not hesitate to call people out on their sin or hypocrisy, we read only of a few times of him calling out certain names. Is this sin? Nee, he called Herod out because of his status and position. He called Peter out (troch
    name) because of his leadership in the early church. It is not sin to point to this case and discuss racism. This case has had a dominate status in the media, and so people talk about it.

    • gdoggydog05Antwurdzje

      im sorry ksi should have been more clear. i’m not assuming…. i’m speaking on all the black christians that i know or have read, etc….. and i didn’t mean that they are prioritizing it more…. what i meant is this: of all the comments black christians have made, i have not seen any that criticize the media for putting a certain case on a pedastool on the basis of race…. sorry about that. I don’t know if they do or not. I think the media is guilty of this and am surprised that my black brothers and sisters have commented on other parts of the case and seemingly supported the media in their display, rather than dissent, even if only with their words.

  43. Steve BurlewAntwurdzje

    Tank, Reis. Seriously. Been a long time since we’ve been together or communicated. I hope you and yours are doing well.
    Grace and peace to you, broer.
    Steve Burlew

  44. Heather Mahnke WorrellAntwurdzje

    Dear T.L.,

    I am a 32 year old white female. I was just explaining Trayvon’s story to my 12 year old daughter. I explained how I feel about all of it. I read your blog above. I respect you, and I also feel that this issue needs to be discussed. I look at it like my marriage, in a wayIf my husband and I have a conflict, we work it out until we have an understanding. We are two separate bodies, but by marriage we are one (my husband and I), just as all of us are put into categories, whether we like it or not. I teach my children that color doesn’t matter, character is what matters, but nonetheless I am white, you are black and we can’t change that. It is a fact about ourselves, just like right now I am wearing a red shirt and if maybe all people wore red shirts everyday, we could get passed all of this, be treated equal by each other, and all be calledred shirt people”, but that’s not going to happen. We all need to come to an understanding about each other like in my marriage. Conflicts need to be fixed, “Don’t go to bed angry”. Our races have been in conflict for too long. We’ve never really come to an understanding, or have learned to respect each other fullynow our bottles of emotion have hit their pressure limits and we’re exploding with irrationality. Our races have never really married each other, so to speak. It’s time to get marriedYou explained in your blog why you have been emotionally invested in the Trayvon Martin Case. That this is the story about you, your father, your grandfather, that you have been racially profiled. Let me tell you that, as a white woman, I treat every stranger with caution regardless of their skin color. I lock my doors, clench my purse, and children tighter no matter who I walk past on the street. There are dangerous white rapist, serial killers, kidnapping, etc. crime happening everywhere just as much as there are in any other skin color there isI want to help change hearts and minds. Just because someone is profiled, doesn’t make it racist. It is because there are sick evil monsters in every color and we have to be cautious. Sa, if we lived in a safe happy world where everyone was kind and loving, we would not have to worry I guess, but this isn’t Heaven. God Bless you, T.L. Love and Peace be with you.

  45. Christopher ZavalaAntwurdzje

    I think the whole Zimmerman/Martin thing has shown me that it is pretty easy for me to judge and just assume that certain people are justplaying the race card.

    But I respect Trip. And I want to take his words to heart and try to sympathize with the perspectives and experiences of others. I pray that God will expand my view and my compassion. And I pray that the power of the Gospel will unite the Church and help all of us to find our identities in Christ and not color or class or country

  46. TJAntwurdzje

    You’re assuming it was based on color. Did you forget there had been young black males breaking into homes where zimm lived? This had nothing to do with color just for the sake of it.

  47. laura merroneAntwurdzje

    Ja, lets move on and get all of this behind us. Whatever happened that day, can you forgive and forget? Can we alllove our enemyas a Christian whoever that may be? Can we honestly sayvengeance is the Lord’snot ours? I am a white woman but have been through some bad experiences myself but I’ve gotten over it by forgiving all parties involved. Our nation needs healing not more tears. The more we forgive, the better off we will be and the racism feelings will fade. No, if only Al Sharpton and the news media will quit bringing up all this stuff and opening the wounds, we will be all right

  48. SophiaAntwurdzje

    Wow! It is so refreshing to hear Kingdom perspective on this issue. We get so wrapped up in arguing with each other, that we forget to ask God what He thinks. We forget that the answers are already in His word. We forget that we should trust in no one and nothing but Him. Finally, we forget that those who seek Him, will be those who find the truth.

    Racism is truly an issue in this country. It’s something that we cannot run from, but that we must face and change. We have to know that we cannot change without Jesus Christ. Racism is a reality that is reflected in our justice system, in how we think about each other, and in how we treat each other. Until the hatred is removed from our hearts, racism will continue to creep into our decisions. The past will be the past, when it is no longer present in our future. Until then, we certainly should not move on.

  49. Karla WillowsAntwurdzje

    Amen Trip. I am half Colombian, half English, it’s so easy for me as I am white, I had a friend for a while who was a neo natzi from Ireland. He did not realize I was half Colombian for a long time. When I realized his beliefs, I told him I was half Colombian, he refused to believe me. Had I had darker skin, he would never have become my friend in the first place. He remained friends with me. I hope God used this to change his perspective, we have since lost touch through day to day life, but not because of skin color. I can’t imagine how painful and damaging it is to be continually judged by the color of your skin. My Son loves 116. He is only four and has no idea of racism yet. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being great role models to both my sons. As far as my four year old is concerned, guys who look like rappers love Jesus and are safe :)

  50. KayAntwurdzje

    The more I read and hear about the Trayvon Martin case. The more I realize that most can not look at it from a realistic/factual point of view. We often look at these cases through a skewed lens that carries baggage from own past. I speak as a woman whose great-grandfather was an illegal immigrant from Mexico, and yet has been challenged by Christ to embrace The Truth, not the truth as “ik” see it. Christ asks that we set aside our identity including our ethnicity, sex, denominational affiliation, etc (Galatiërs 3:28), in order to see our world through the lens of Christwhich embodies all truth.

    Trayvon Martin, according to his friend Rachel Jeantel racially profiled George Zimmerman calling him aCreepy a** cracke,.” and then proceeded to brutally assault GZ. Understand, I am in no way defending Zimmerman because he took the law into his own hands, which ended in the death of Martin. My problem with this case, has been the pass that is often given to minorities for racist comments and behaviors. The truth in this case is that both men were out of line in their behavior toward one another, and yet TM gets a pass because he is a man of color. I am sorry but God does not honor that mentality, because it is one that is twisted and perverted.

    BOTH MEN were equally wrong in how they responded to each other, and yet we care little about ALL the facts. We just care about the facts that best support the way we want to think.

    I am finding racism is a real problem in our culture, but the reality is it is not just a white problem, it is just as prevalent in people of color as well. Racism, will never end as long as we are concerned only about ourown” folk. I truly believe this is the message Martin Luther King Jr. preached, before it was tarnished by the likes of Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson. Unity and oneness can only happen when men and women truly see through the lens of Christ, because as Galatians 3:28 points out we are ALL ONEIN” Kristus. I personally believe anytime we chose to view ourselves outside of that framework, than we either knowingly or unknowingly erect barriers and dividers. Bottom line Christians, racism can stop with you, as long as you truly embrace Christ’s perspective. Oars, you are left with justifying a false reality that continues to erect barriers between you and others.

    We need to ask ourselves do want the Truth, or are we only interested in seeing through our distorted lens, where truth is relative, and is only accepted if it fits into our framework?

  51. LaRoneAntwurdzje

    Brothers and Sisters,

    What saddens me more than anything is how readingsomeof the comments posting on this wonderful website, I find it hard to see the difference between here, YouTube or any other site where folks just like to argue their points and dismiss grace and peace. Still, much better comments than usual. What Trip was trying to convey seems to have gotten lost in most of the comments.

    As far as the killing of Trayvon, just notice how its almost never a person of color, especially black, that comes to the defense of Zimmerman. NOw, everything doesn’t have to do with race, but the things that do should not be so easily disregarded. The black experience in America is so downplayed. Wêrom? Should Blacks just get over the fact that their ancestors were property of men and women in this country? Should the fact that government propaganda literally called for the discrimination of them be forgotten? Should they forget that the Constitution literally stated that they are only 3/5 of a man? Of equal importance, should people who aren’t persons of color really act oblivious to these same facts of American history as if there are not still systems of oppression (not just profiling) that directly effect the black community and other minority groups? It is so easy to tell people to get over it or to point out Black success in an attempt to undermine race relations in this HISTORICALLY racist country. But when you are the benefactor of racism (even if unknowingly) and you are not affect by it negatively, you inevitably have a viewpoint different and sometimes even defensive when it comes to race. Thank the Lord that Christ unifies ALL people. But still, churches remain the most segregated places in America. Thank you all for reading and all be Blessed.

  52. thefollowerAntwurdzje

    I have read through this entire thing the comments, arguments, sympathy statements. It all amazes me your intelligence and personal experience about all these things. Like in the beginning Trip said don’t stop talking about it, lykwols, I’m quite sure he didn’t mean argue.

    I am an 18 year old white girl, my best friend is an 18 year old black girl, i have no black relatives, my church is completely white, i have many black friends, and i worked at a camp for underprivileged children where more than half the campers are black….i have seen the way you all put up some facts about your life to make people understand you better so those are a few facts about my lifeI’ve learned about the racial issue and it disturbs me its even made me mad enough to break my hand from punching things when hearing about the struggles some people have gone through. its okay to get mad over things like murder, racism, lies, and hypocrisy, but it is definitely NOT okay to treat each other with the disrespect and ‘i know betterattitudes i have seen on here. I may not know a whole lot about the world and all of its struggles but i know a few things. I know that first of all God created all man equal and as friends of those treated with racism we can and should stick up for them. I also know that God is the Righteous Judge and many of you who argued on here said you were christianshame on youthis case has brought such a division and not not just between white/black/hispanic people between every person who thinks he/she knows better than everyone who doesn’t agree with them. We are children of God, the only one who really knows what happened the night Treyvon was killed, so who are we to argue who’s right or wrong?

    John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

    I’m not hear to tell you my opinion on the case and i’m not hear to judge you. I felt compelled to remind you that right or wrong we are called to love people and to let go of selfish pride over winning an argument that isn’t ours to win. John 8:7 came to mind within the first ten comments and stayed there until the end. If you’re going to argue do it in a loving way or, here’s a funny thought, if you know that you can’t argue in a way that is still respectful DON’T ARGUE! It’s not up to us to condemn or set free anyone and frankly its idiotic to act like it is. Thank you for taking a stand and sharing your opinions! Like I said I’m sure that you are all intelligent and enjoyable people but if we don’t show God’s love even through our opinions why in the world would people think christianity is worthwhile when we don’t act different from the rest of the world?

  53. ItoAntwurdzje

    We are believers, Bearers of the image of our Lord Jesus Christ, people who understand that we and ALL people are wicked, sinful, redeemed only by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ who took the wrath of the Father, because of our sin, on the cross for us. What do we have without truth? The TRUTH should be what governs this conversation, not opinion. Our history tells the story and provides the answers if we are willing to be honest.

    I won’t even provide my racial identity. Because it is irrelevant to this discussion. I am a lover of the Lord, and someone who studied law, justice, sociology, and law enforcement.

    Look at the facts and the stats. The American Justice system is far from colorblind. She badly reeks of the sins of oppression, partiality, and wickedness. Classism is just as much a cause of it as racism is. But to say racism does not exist, or did not play a part in the outcome of this case, is a mistake. It is an opinion that chooses to completely ignore the history of our justice system in favor of what it would like to be true.

    Racism exist. It is alive and well and active.
    gelokkich, we serve a God who knows everything. Who is powerful to heal those who will let Him. Who is faithfulness to heal bitterness and resentment. And who has given us power through prayer and action.

    Disciple your children in truth. The truth is that their race will be part of their identity, (and determine how some people will view them) for as long as they live.

    Glory to God who looks not at what man does.

  54. PastorNormAntwurdzje

    The thing I believe that God wants us to do with this incident and all those other ones we continue to hear about is what Trip said. Pray for all parties involved to either get saved out of what has happened or get right if they are Christians. What everyone has missed is that God Almighty called Trayvon’s number for whatever reason He had. NOBODY was going to change that that night. God said, “Trayvon, it is over for youjust like he did for Tupac and many others. IF Trayvon was saved, glory to God he is now with Jesus. If not, sadly he is burning in Hell. Remember, Eccl. 12:13 ” Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

  55. muchneededmoderatorAntwurdzje

    I entered this website, read the various blogs posted and was encouraged by various posts until I came to this one. The comment thread that ensued below was both disturbing and heart wrenching. Instead of reading calm, patient, wise and God centered comments, I suddenly found myself engulfed in a frenzy of racism and hatred. And all this by supposed Christians who seem to think it’s appropriate to tell each other who is or is not a Christians and whether or not their prayers will reach the ears of God or as Marvin put it: “…your prayers probably won’t make it past your ceiling.Many of you say repeatedly that you are not on the attack and do not wish to offend anyone, that you simply have your own opinions and that yes, they are strong. Fine, we all have our own opinions and we all feel strongly on certain issues whether or not we find others who agree. That is a right and a freedom we have as Americans to enjoy and I hope it is never taken from us. But to constantly bash another brother or sister in Christ and to preach at each other as if you yourselves know best is pure hypocrisy. We as Christians should know better than anyone that we are simply human, we make mistakes, we act in arrogant pride, we are blinded to certain issues simply by our own sin and no matter how hard we try, those blinders will always be there because we are fallen, sinful, humans. It is for that reason that God is our judge. It is not our opinions that matter, but God’s and God’s alone. To act towards each other so hatefully and yet call yourselves “bruorren” is pathetic at best.
    marvin, to be honest I had to stop reading about half way down the posts simply because I couldn’t stomach the way you continued to treat yourbrothers and sistersall the while sticking to your guns, becoming more and more inflamed and then claiming that you weren’t upset. Read your own posts, mynhear. Whether I agree with you or not does not matter, what matters is how you treat your brother. Read through the posts, you were by far (at least until I stopped reading about halfway down) the most volatile person on this thread. You tell others they have no right to tell you how to pray and then you suggest that God does not even hear their prayers. Who are you to suggest such a thing? You are not God. Come down off your throne and then speak to your brothers in love instead of impatience and anger.
    Racism is ugly and I see it everywhere and constantly. I hate it for so many different reasons and on so many different levels. But there will be no healing this disease until ALL sides recognize that there is racism no matter what color your skin is AND that not all people hate other people simply because their skin or their culture differ from their own. As a Christian I am very sad to see how racism has effected my brothers and sisters. I am sad that we have to see a “racist” around every corner and just assume that people are racist because their skin is white. We should see other Christians with many colors and cultures. Stop screaming “racist” at each other and simply say “broer”. I see more racism becoming a problem each day simply because one side or the other cries “racist” without even knowing the person they addressing. If you see a brother or sister acting in a racist way then by all means address it and speak to that person, privately. But stop crying wolf when there is no wolf.
    Love one another as Christ loved the church. That is all we need to remember when it comes to dealing with one another.

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