Skulle vi går videre?

Jeg har holdt opp med Trayvon Martin saga fra begynnelsen. Som mange av dere jeg så på nyhetene dekning, lese artiklene, og snakket om det med venner. Det dominerte offentlig samtale og provosert en sårt tiltrengt diskusjon om rase i Amerika. Den stygge virkeligheten av rasisme ble skjøvet foran våre ansikter, og selv de som liker å late som om det ikke eksisterer ble tvunget til å snakke om det.

Over et år senere, Trayvon morder har vært prøvd og funnet ikke skyldig. Betyr det at vi bør gå videre fra problemene? De fant ham uskyldig, så disse "rase problemene” må ikke være så ekte som vi trodde de var, ikke sant? Det kunne ikke være lengre fra sannheten. Jeg har ingen intensjon om å krangle om fakta, Trayvon karakter, eller dommen i denne tragiske situasjonen, men jeg tror noen diskusjon bør fortsette. Rettssaken er over, men samtalen skal ikke være.

Hvorfor Rente?

Jeg vet det er mange som lurer på hvorfor denne rettssaken har fanget oppmerksomheten til så mange. Andre lurer på hvorfor noen svarte folk er så raske til å sympatisere med Trayvon Martin, til tross for at han hadde problemer med sin egen. Tross alt, ingen av oss var der, og vi vet ikke nøyaktig hva som skjedde. Mens det er sant, Jeg fant meg selv følelsesmessig investert i hele ildprøve. Jeg kan ikke snakke for alle, men jeg kan fortelle deg hvorfor jeg fant meg selv å sympatisere med Trayvon og Martin familie.

Når jeg hører om en ung svart tenåring på vei hjem fra butikken, og mannen som antok at han var en kriminell før du vet noe om ham, jeg kan relatere. Du kan ikke være i stand til å. Kanskje du har aldri blitt fulgt rundt i et varehus av en sikkerhetsvakt uten grunn. jeg har. Kanskje du aldri har hatt en praktisk butikkansatt skrike på deg til å forlate, forutsatt at bjørnebær på hoften er en pistol som du har tenkt å skyte ham med. jeg har.

Kanskje du aldri har smilte og hilste folk du har gått på gata, bare for å ha dem å unngå øyekontakt, clutch sine eiendeler, og raskt gå bort. jeg har. Kanskje du har aldri blitt presset mot en vegg, holdt med pistol, og satt i håndjern av politiet (som er ment å beskytte deg) fordi du "ser ut som en mistenkt vi var ute etter.” jeg har (og jeg så ikke noe sånt mistenkte). Alle disse hendelsene er mindre og ingen av dem betydelig truet mitt liv. Mest, Hvis ikke alle, av mine svarte venner har vært gjennom lignende situasjoner. Og utallige andre har tålt mye, mye verre.

Hvis du aldri har opplevd denne typen ting, du kan ikke forstå hvorfor dette tilfellet resonerer så dypt med oss. Men når jeg hører hans historie, Jeg hører min historie. Og min fars historie. Og sønnen min historie. Jeg aner ikke hva som skjedde etter at Mr. Zimmerman gjort antakelser om den unge mannen, men før krangel, Det var ikke noe ekstraordinært om hendelsen. Det skjer hver eneste dag.

Profilering er reell, og det er ofte rase. Noen mennesker tror de har gave oppdage karakter bare ved å se på en person. Akkurat som en mørk blå uniform og merket betyr politi, mørk hud og en hettegenser betyr lovbryter. Ingen samtale som har skjedd, men en imaginær rap plate festes. Voldsom tegnet tolkes. De tenker på gangster bilde de så på TV, eller faren deres foreldre fortalte dem om, eller den forferdelige forbrytelsen de var vitne til - og de plasserer alle som bagasje på en person de aldri har møtt. Vi har aldri rett til å trekke uberettigede konklusjoner om en person-selv om de slår seg å være urolig.

Slike forutsetninger er kvalmt og falske. Gud skapte alle mennesker i sitt bilde med verdi og verdt. Likevel oss alle er syndige og ikke klarer å vise Guds bilde som vi burde. Hver eneste en av oss kan slå fra våre synder, tillit Kristus, og gjøres rett ved vår Skaper. Men rasisme hakker og velger hvilke mennesker i disse sannhetene skal brukes til. rasisme sier, "Jeg er verdifull og god, og alle disse menneskene er onde.”

Denne stolte opprør mot Gud og motstand mot Hans evangelium bør være av interesse for Guds folk. Vi skal ikke se bort fra det, og vi bør ikke være redd for å ta det opp. De gode nyhetene er at Jesus kom for å dø for både rasistiske og ikke-rasistiske syndere. Tidligere fiender kan bli venner i Ham, og dra nytte av nøyaktig samme nåde. Hvem vil trappe opp, løse dette problemet, og forkynne sannheten? Hvorvidt du tror rase er en faktor i denne saken, du kan ikke benekte at rase er en faktor i livet til så mange av oss hver dag.

Hva gjør vi nå?

Så hvordan skal vi svare? Kanskje vi bør gå videre i en forstand. Kanskje vi skal slutte å krangle om ting vi vet ikke sikkert om. Vi vet ikke hver eneste detalj av den kvelden; ellers ville vi ha blitt kalt som vitner. Og hvorvidt vi liker dommen, det er ute av våre hender.

Kanskje vi skal slutte å krangle, og begynne å be. Be for familiene. Be om at Gud ville holde sitt løfte om å sende sin Sønn for å bringe perfekt rettferdighet. Herren trenger ikke advokater til å argumentere for sine saker, og han trenger ikke bevis presenteres. Han har ikke behov for juryen å gi ham sitt perspektiv. Han ser alt, vet alt, og dommere med perfekt rettferdighet.

Men på en annen måte, vi definitivt ikke bør gå videre. Vi skal ikke slutte å snakke om rasisme som fortsatt lurer i vår verden. Hvis du har opplevd det, hjelpe dem som ikke har opplevd det å forstå. Vær tålmodig med dine venner som de klønete søke å forstå hva du har gått gjennom. Og vennligst ikke bevise dem rett ved å oppfylle negative stereotypier. Trust Kristus, og be Gud ville forme figuren din til å se mer ut som Hans.

Hvis du aldri har vært på mottakersiden av rasisme, sympatisere med de som har. Lær om sine erfaringer. Du kan ikke elske noen hvis du ignorerer eller bagatelliserer deres bekymringer. Vennligst aldri anta at folk bare klager og spille "rasekortet.” Søk å forstå dem, og respektere det faktum at noen av oss lever i forskjellige virkeligheter og må tåle ulike prøvelser.

Hva enn du gjør, bare ikke slutte å snakke om det.

AKSJER

133 kommentarer

  1. jonathansampsonSvare

    T.L., Jeg beklager at du har vært gjennom noen tøffe ting, men dette tilfellet var ikke en refleksjon av rasisme i Amerika. George var ikke engang sikker på Trayvon rase før senere i 911 anrop, når Trayvon begynte å gå mot sin retning. Trayvon ble sett på som mistenkelig fordi vi gikk mellom og bak boligblokker, synes å være på jakt i windows. Huske, Dette samfunnet har hatt en rekke innbrudd og tyverier. Det er derfor Trayvon så mistenkelig. Hadde han gått på fortauet i lys av lokale gatelamper, George ville ikke ha batted øye.

    Jeg føler meg forferdelig at en ung mann døde; men jeg føler meg enda mer forferdelig av alle som har fulgt som et resultat av denne saken blir framstilt som et eksempel på rasisme. Fem svarte tenåringer i Baltimore holdt en Hispanic mann med pistol i går og slo ham “for Trayvon.” LAPD har vært å svare på små opptøyer siden dommen ikke skyldig kom i. Denne falske rasisme er motbydelig, og det sårer mennesker, ikke å hjelpe dem.

    Hva plager meg også er at slike ting ikke bare skje til svarte mennesker. Jeg ble behandlet svært dårlig av mine sorte kolleger i ungdomsskolen. Utløst ned plattinger, mobbet, og latterliggjort. Bare et par måneder siden besøkte jeg en helt sort-hann college campus hvor jeg var frivillig for svarte jenter kode. Prøver bare å gå til bilen min ble jeg møtt med fornærmelser og trusler fra college gutter som ikke tror jeg hørte på deres campus.

    En mor bare noen få måneder siden her i Georgia ble kontaktet av en 17 år gammel og 14 år gammel (en gang til, både svart) på 9am som skjøt henne i beinet, og henne 13 måneder gamle baby i ansiktet. Det kan være grunnen til at folk frik ut til tider. Kan det være klær? Kan det være hip hop-kulturen som freaks folk ut? Muligens. (Trist hvis sant, men forståelig).

    Uansett hva problemet er, Jeg håper og ber om en løsning som vil hjelpe oss å redde livet til våre små barn, uavhengig av deres rase. Jeg beklager igjen at du har vært gjennom noen tøffe tider, men gjør dette Trayvon / Zimmerman saken om rase ikke hjelper vår forståelse, det skyer det.

    • YOURSTRULYSvare

      Utmerket poeng og godt put. Rasisme overført, og har blitt en helt ny ting “profilering” og skjer mellom mennesker som anser seg selv å være annerledes. Fyren i dress og jenta i en thong ect… profilering er rundt og vanskelig å fjerne seg fra, Det er ikke lenger begrenset til fargen på seg hud. Tør vi snakke om andre mer ondskapsfulle interracial voldelige forbrytelser. Hvorfor denne ene? Vi kan bare håpe at rasisme ikke er videreført som en syndebukk og folk kan eie inntil det er flere usikkerheter i seg selv og akseptere hverandre. Profilering er trist, men selv Trayvon profilert “hvite kjeks”. Så kan ta ingen sider, men se alle vinkler. Uten tvil, ikke skyldig.

    • Marvin Lee McManusSvare

      Hva plager meg er at vi er så raske til å tro løgnene George Zimmerman fortalt om hvordan Trayvon Martin var ute i vinduene i disse hjemmene i dette fellesskapet. En gang til, ingen av oss var der, men Gud så hele ildprøve, og det må tas hensyn til før Ham og Ham alene. Hva irriterer meg er det faktum at vi må fortsette å gå frem og tilbake med hele denne hva om dette svart person begår denne forbrytelsen mot denne hvit person, men ingenting ble gjort. Det er ikke produktivt i det hele tatt. Jeg hører roping om borgerrettighetsaktivister blir involvert og gjør dette om rase, vi alle spille en rolle. Jeg sender til deg at problemet skal være med nyhetsmediene og ikke sivile rettigheter aktivister eller andre som innser at rase spilte en større rolle enn det som er blitt innlagt. Du ser, medie trives med å skape kontrovers som det er bra for deres karakterer. Sist gang jeg sjekket, store medier ikke var eid av minoriteter. Det er kjærligheten til penger som er roten til alt ondt. Når vi som et folk er mer opptatt av å gjøre en fortjeneste i motsetning til den skade som vi kastet på samfunnet, det er et stort problem med det. Jeg er stolt over å si at jeg er en gjenfødt barn av Gud. Det er ikke å si at jeg kaster grunnen ut av vinduet. Det vil si at sannheten er alltid velkommen uavhengig av rase. De vilkårlige usannheter fortalt mot denne unge mannen, uavhengig av sin fortid, og urettferdig karakterisering av seg selv og til og med Rachel Jeantel, alle gå for å bevise at rase har noe å si. Det såret meg til mitt hjerte at denne rettssaken endte slik den gjorde fordi Trayvon Martin synes å ha blitt myrdet to ganger. Den virkelige triste sannheten er, det er mangel på medfølelse fordi et barn, uavhengig av dine tanker om ham, mistet livet meningsløst, og det spiller ingen rolle hva hans rase var. Ingen mengde krangler noen gang vil bringe Trayvon tilbake og ikke mengden av klager kommer til å få en dom for sin morder. Det vi trenger å gjøre er å virkelig være mer medfølende mot hverandre og spørre oss selv, Hva om det hadde vært mitt barn eller en annen kjær. Uavhengig av hvem gjerningsmannen var eller ikke, ville du fortsatt føler det på samme måte? Bare fordi FL har en lov betyr ikke at advokat trumfer Guds ord. Hva skjedde med Du skal ikke drepe? Guds rettferdighet alltid vil seire. Nå, Jeg kommer til å lene seg tilbake og vente å se hvem som ikke vil høre eller forstå hjertet av dette innlegget og prøve å skole meg på hvorfor de tror reaksjonene fortsatt blir blåst ut av proporsjoner.

      • jonathansampsonSvare

        Du erkjenner at ingen av oss var der, men sier at George lå om Trayvon ser mistenkelig. Hvis du ikke var der, hvilket grunnlag har du for å kalle George en løgner?

        Hvor får du ideen om at rase spilte en rolle i dette? George veiledet svarte barn, tok en svart jente til prom, og hadde vennskap og respekt for andre svarte i hans nabolag som vitnet om at han var en mann av god karakter.

        Min biff er absolutt med media, som kom rett ut av porten med rase-lokkemat ved å ringe Zimmerman en “white-hispanic,” slik som å starte en brann mellom svarte og hvite. Tross alt, hvis det ikke er noen uenighet, de kan ikke selge annonseplass.

        Jeg er sikker på om George og Trayvon kunne gå tilbake og gå gjennom den kvelden, ville de begge gjøre ting annerledes. Dette endrer ikke det faktum at Trayvon (ikke en gutt, men en mann) døde mens skrev Zimmerman, slamming hodet i betongen gjentatte ganger. Dette ble født ut av bevisene viser gress flekker på Zimmerman er tilbake, samt øyenvitne vitnesbyrd om at Zimmerman var på bunnen.

        Jeg synes det er trist ved døden av et barn, men jeg er mer trist av instruksjon og livsstil som barnet vokste opp i og rundt. Som Jeantel fremgår klart, hun kommer fra et område som hvite mennesker ikke ville forstå. Et sted der tenåringene rutinemessig røyke pot, et sted der hvite mennesker er kalt “kjeks”, og mer. Dette hip-hop livsstil fortsette å drepe seg barn.

        Jeg gikk ut med en svart jente da jeg bodde i Chattanooga år tilbake som ble trakassert av hennes jevnaldrende fordi hun var “handle hvitt” i å forfølge en utdanning. Hvor kommer denne mentaliteten kommer fra? Det er absolutt ikke feil av hvite mennesker som små svarte barn blir latterlig andre unge svarte barn for å prøve å utmerke i livet.

        Jeg prøver å gjøre min del i å hjelpe. Som en programvare ingeniør jeg har meldt seg frivillig og hjalp spre en forkjærlighet for teknologi og programmering blant unge svarte Atlanta-baserte jenter, jobbe med fantastiske initiativer som Black Girls kode. Akkurat nå er alle disse barna trenger å se opp til er vitser som Nicki Minaj, og wannabe-kjeltringer rapping om sex, penger, og sko.

        Vi svikter våre unge svarte barn.

        • Marvin Lee McManusSvare

          Hva formålet ikke annonsere at du datet en svart jente når du var i Chattanooga tjene? Du trenger ikke å annonsere det til meg for meg å respektere din mening. Det er noe som er ganske enkelt iboende. Det faktum at du hjelper ung svart ungdom ikke skiller deg fra andre hvite borgere enten. Jeg sier ikke at å være slem eller respektløst, men det er fryktelig mistenkte. Den svarte jenta du brukt til dags dato er ikke bare svart person til å lide noen form for latterliggjøring enten det er fra en hvit person, en svart person, eller noen andre. Nå, Jeg sa vi ikke var der. Men du skraper en løgn, du alltid finne en tyv. Bare fordi George Zimmerman nevnt alle de tingene om å ha svarte venner, og mentoring svarte barn, en gang til, betyr ikke noe. Noen gang hørt uttrykket hykler? Også, hvis det regner, og jeg prøver å komme hjem, Jeg har ikke tid til å være titte i noens vinduer. Men hvis jeg bare tatt livet av noen som jeg trodde var mistenkelig, Jeg måtte gjøre mitt beste for å beskrive de mistanker. Det kalles pynte sannheten. På slutten av dagen, Han trenger ikke å møte meg. Han vil; derimot, ansikt Gud, Ja han ble frikjent, og selv om jeg var skuffet med dommen, du eller noen andre kan rasjonalisere bort det faktum at rase ikke spille en rolle i denne hendelsen; i rettssaken, i media, og selv nå. Hvis rase ikke spiller en rolle, ingen av disse kommentarene ville snakke om det så mye. Og ikke bare fra den svarte mennesker. Det er utrolig for meg at du snakker om rap ikoner som barna ser opp til, som om det er bare svarte barn som liker dem. Hvite barn er større tilhengere av Nicki Minaj og Lil Wayne er enn noen andre. Når du har en kultur for hvite barn som kan mynt en term, “Wigger”, vennligst ikke lure deg selv til å tro at det bare er svarte mennesker. Uansett, det er dumhet på begge sider og hat på begge sider, men vennligst fritiden meg når du prøver å rehash de punktene som du ønsker å gjøre for å indikere at George Zimmerman ble frikjent.

        • jonathansampsonSvare

          Herr, Jeg snakker fra min personlige erfaring. Det er derfor jeg snakket om min ex i Tennessee, og det er derfor jeg refererte mitt engasjement i tiltak skapt for å tjene unge svarte barn. Dessverre kunne jeg gi min fulle vitnesbyrd, og fortsatt bli vurdert bare en hvit bonde av andre.

          Jeg vet at min ex er ikke den eneste svarte jenta å bli respektert. Det jeg påpekte er at unge svarte barn kommer opp i miljøer som ikke oppmuntrer til personlig dyktighet. Dette er ikke tilfelle for dem alle, men i min personlige erfaring er det ubehagelig vanlig.

          Du kaller George en hykler, men igjen, basert på hva? Kjenner du George? Var du der om natten? Det er ikke det at George sa han hadde svarte venner, det er den personlige vitnesbyrd svarte i hans nabolag som verbalt roste ham. Så hvilket grunnlag kan vi kalle hans karakter inn spørsmålet når alle bevisene antyder han ikke, og har aldri vært, rasist?

          Hvis rase spilte en rolle, hvor kommer bevisene viser at? Den eneste omtale av rase vi har i hele denne saken var i ord Jeantel, som sa Trayvon heter George en “skummel ass cracker,” og senere en “nigger.” Den rasistiske kommentaren kom fra Trayvon, ikke George. Jeantel vitnet om at i hennes område, det er det de kaller hvite mennesker.

          Jeg mener ikke å male hvite barn som noen form for engel. Jeg snakker av kulturelle påvirkninger på svarte barn bare fordi vi snakker om Trayvon i dette tilfellet. Jeg er nok lei av thug mentalitet blant unge hvite barn, også. Min sønn, som er bi-rase, vil ikke vokse opp med buksene rundt knærne, oversized skjorter, og en holdning som kommuniserer apati og disinterest. Jeg ønsker ikke å se det blant hvite barn, svarte barna, hispanic barn, eller noen andre. I stedet, Jeg ønsker å se denne neste generasjonen gjøre det bedre for seg selv.

          Jeg elsker deg, bror. Og jeg setter pris på din lidenskap. Jeg trøstet av det faktum at vi både ber om og bryr seg om dette neste generasjon, og vi ønsker å se mer lykkes enn noen gang før. Gud velsigne.

        • Marvin Lee McManusSvare

          Jonathan, dette går ingensteds fort. Jeg har ikke lest hele innlegget fordi jeg ikke prøver å ha en uenighet med deg. Tillat meg å si, Jeg gjorde ikke kalle George Zimmerman en hykler. Jeg rett og slett gjort referanse til ordet. Er du en gjenfødt barn av Gud? I så fall, hvorfor er vi bante frem og tilbake? Hva er det vi prøver å bevise. Jeg bryr meg ikke hva Trayvon Martin rase er, Han mistet livet da han ikke har for. Du nevnte i andre innlegg at han var en ung mann. Nei, han var ikke. Så dårlig som vi vil at han skal være slik at George Zimmerman er videre begrunnet i å ta livet sitt, han ennå var et barn. 17 år tilsvarer et barn. Han var ikke vokst. Det er så trist med polariseringen som skjedde og svarte og hvite og sitter tilbake som dette er en sport og avhengig av hva teamet reoler opp flest poeng vinner. Det er rett og slett trist. Hvis Trayvon Martin hadde vært hvit og George Zimmerman hadde vært svart, Jeg ville fortsatt føler det på samme måte som jeg føler meg nå. Men den triste sannheten er, hadde George Zimmerman vært svart og Trayvon Martin vært hvit, Dette ville ha vært en mye annet utfall i at han ville har blitt arrestert dagen 1, stående hans bakken eller ikke, og dommen mest definitivt ville ha vært mye annerledes. Føl deg fri til å bli venn med meg på noen sosiale medier utløp du ønsker hvis du ønsker å få et inntrykk av hvem jeg egentlig er; derimot, På dette punktet, Jeg er ferdig med å gå frem og tilbake fordi det er så ikke noe sted. Jeg setter pris på dine svar skjønt.

        • Nathanial PolingSvare

          Marvin, du trenger å lese innleggene dine… du har vært på angrep fra begynnelsen mens de fortsatt prøver å spille “nøytral” kort. Du kalte Zimmerman en løgner og en morder og deretter angripe hvite bror som er å ha en sivil samtale. For en, Zimmerman er en Hispanic.. Jeg har aldri hørt en person samtale President Obama hvitt og dette punktet alene show bias. Min personlige mening er at media blåste dette til en rasekrig når den egentlige problemet var virkelig indre by mot forsteder. Det er visse atferd som vandrer mellom husene som ikke er vanlig i regionale eller gated communities. Alle nabolag watch person ville ha funnet dette å være rar oppførsel. Hva skjedde etterpå vil bli debattert evig som ingen var der bortsett fra en fyr og juryen sett på alle bevis og avgjort at hans historie holdt opp nok til å ikke dømme ham.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Nathanial, Jeg har ikke angrepet noen. Jeg delte bare mine meninger. Selv om de er sterke, de er mine. Det ville være mer hensiktsmessig for deg å si
            “Jeg føler at du var angripe noen”. Jeg vet hvordan jeg kom over, og jeg angrep ikke Jonathan i det hele tatt. Våre ulike meninger og ingen av oss er i endring våre synspunkter, men vi har fortsatt samtalte. Snakker av skjevhet, dem er også meget tydelig. Hva gjør George Zimmerman er hispanic har å gjøre med å bevise at dette ikke handlet om rase? Er en hendelse som ikke er basert på rase hvis det ikke skjer mellom et medlem av den svarte og hvite rase? Hva gjør President Obamas arv har å gjøre med denne tråden? Jeg har alltid erkjent sin etniske makeup for hva det er. Dessverre, det er de som ville vurdere ham svart bare på grunn av fargen på huden hans. Ja, Jeg sa George Zimmerman var en løgner og en morder, både sanne påstander. Bare fordi juryen frikjente ham ikke gjør heller en falsk. På slutten av dagen, hva er poenget at du prøver å hamre hjem? Jeg beklager hvis du føler deg som om jeg angriper noen. Har jeg ikke lov til å snakke min mening akkurat som alle andre på denne tråden har uten å bli beskyldt for å være noe som jeg vet at jeg ikke?

        • pepjrpSvare

          Gud vil seire, men du opptrer rasistisk. Du ignorere fakta i saken fordi Martin var svart. Det er den eneste grunnen. Martin angrepet Zimmerman etter forsvinne i noen minutter. Ingen drapet skjedde, Du er feilinformert som er 10-tallet av 1000 som ser dette gjennom rase farget glass.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Hva jeg synes å være ganske morsom min venn er det faktum at du gjør en antagelse om meg uten å vite meg. På en annen blogg her (etter Trayvon, Vil det være Justice for Floridas Andre Stand Your Ground offer?) på Disqus, noen ringte meg en “nigger” bare fordi mitt synspunkt skilte seg fra deres. Gjorde jeg svare? Nei. Hvorfor ikke? Fordi jeg vet hvem jeg er og hva jeg representerer. Det er morsomt for meg at du refererer til Gud rådende som for å antyde at du er en kristen. Først av alt, Jeg er rett og slett forsvare Trayvon Martin siden han ble myrdet den skjebnesvangre natten og fortsetter å bli drept. Jeg ville føle på nøyaktig samme måte om han var en liten hvit gutt også, og George Zimmerman ble svart. Det oppfordring verdsetting menneskeheten. Du ser, George Zimmerman er en morder. Han devaluert annet menneskes liv på grunn av en krangel at han begynte. Uavhengig av at han ble frikjent for “manns” lov, Guds lov sa “du skal ikke drepe”. Hva gjorde han? Han drepte når hele situasjonen kunne vært forhindret. Det du kaller rasisme er ikke noe mer enn begrunnelsen basert på verdien jeg plass på Trayvon liv. Er jeg sint på George Zimmerman, ikke i det hele tatt, Han vil møte sin dommer. Er jeg opprørt på Stand Your Ground Law, Ja det er jeg. Hvis det ikke beskytte en svart kvinne, Marissa Alexander, som avfyrte varselskudd på mannen sin, og deretter ført til en 20 års fengsel for henne, det bør ikke har søkt til George Zimmerman enten. For at du skal anta noe om mine ignorerer fakta og bare forsvare Trayvon Martin fordi han er svart viser meg din skjevhet og iboende rasisme knyttet til rase-baserte antagelsen. Det er videre klart i forakt av “10‘S av 1000 som ser dette gjennom rase farget glass”. Takk for at du gjorde meg til å le selv.

          • pepjrp

            Vi som kristne har lov til å ta et liv hvis vår er i fare… og det ser ut til at Zimmerman var. Det ser også at du ikke vil gi Zimmerman fordelen av at. Hvis det ikke er rase basert, Da min unnskyldninger, men du er en av de svært få som det ikke er. Men du er en kristen, og nesten alle de andre som jeg har snakket med på nettet er ikke, så jeg vil gi deg den respekt. Men det er klart at du trodde noen usannheter om saken uten å se eller lytte til deg selv. Det er der min forverring kommer i. Jeg hadde ingen tro på en eller annen måte før jeg brukt tid til å få så mange fakta som jeg kunne. Det var overraskende hva jeg oppdaget. Nå, Jeg ser at mange bruker Marissa Alexander sak å smelle igjen Zimmerman dommen. Nå vet jeg ikke så mye om det som jeg gjør dette en, men jeg vet at Alexander ble tilbudt en 3 år påstand avtale som hun slått ned. Ennå, Jeg har aldri lest dette i noens innlegg. Det er også vitnesbyrd om at hun kunne ha forlatt og kom tilbake etter at hun ble borte, men jeg vet ikke det sikkert, men det er en del av påtalemyndighetens sak. Men det er enorm grunn til å tro at Trayvon Martin hadde også forlatt og kom tilbake. Det var minutter der Zimmerman sier på telefonen til 911 sentralen at han ikke vet hvor Martin er. Men du visste ikke at fordi du ikke prøver å vite det, gjorde du? Min kommentar fra “10‘S av 1000 som ser dette gjennom rase farget glass” står som er mer enn sant. Det er nok av hvite som mener Zimmerman er skyldig for alle typer personlige grunner, men det er nesten ingen svarte som føler Zimmerman kan være uskyldig Det er alt det rasistiske bevis du trenger.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Vennligst gjør meg en tjeneste og stoppe det. Som en kristen, du burde vite bedre enn å prøve å forelese meg om å tro usannheter. Det innebærer at du tror alt som er utgått fra George Zimmerman munn var sannheten. Jeg vil ikke berøre det fordi igjen, bare Gud er hans dommer. Jo mer du prøver å høres upartisk og rasjonell om denne saken, verre blir det. Og igjen, slutte forutsatt at du vet hvor mye av dette tilfellet jeg hørte på for meg selv. Jeg er en veldig belest, utdannet, person som er i stand til å tenke selv, bortsett fra følelser. Fortell meg i Bibelen der det står om liv er i fare, du kan ta en annen. Du skal ikke drepe betyr akkurat det. Og glede fritiden meg med de gamle testamente drapene som var utbredt fordi Guds nåde ikke hadde kommet på scenen. Den Marissa Alexander saken, spiller ingen rolle, påstand avtale eller ikke, hvis hun følte livet hennes var i fare, hun hadde all rett til å stå sin bakken. Du støtter en lov som har bundet inn blatant rasistiske overtoner, og prøver å forsvare det, en gang til, ikke en god titt. Også, hvis du føler bibelen viser om ditt liv er i fare kan du ta en annen, hvordan synes du om abort som er medisinsk nødvendig. Bare nysgjerrig å vite. En gang til, på slutten av dagen, dine meninger er din og ikke endre, verken er mine. Eneste forskjellen er, gruve skyldes en ren human ståsted, din er rett og slett ute av sinne og frustrasjon som du føler dette tilfellet var om rase. Se forskjellen?

          • Nathanial Poling

            Du viste bare din uvitenhet eller bare generell mangel på kunnskap… Stå på bakken ble aldri brukt i Zimmerman tilfelle av forsvaret, han var uskyldig selv uten at loven. Videre at loven har søkt 2 til 1 i favør av afro-amerikanere å forsvare seg mot andre afrikanske amerikanere enn hvite bruke loven.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Uansett hvor mye du ønsker å ønske bort SYG loven, bedømmelsen og resulterer språk lignet den SYG ordgyteri. Så i teorien bare fordi SYG ikke ble påberopt, betyr ikke at det ikke var grunnlag for beslutningen. Dessuten, Vennligst spar meg din statistikk med mindre du kan sikkerhetskopiere dem med bevis. Neste gang, vurdere språket ditt når du ønsker å anta at noen er uvitende fordi du er uvitende om du virkelig tror at SYG herskende spilte ingen rolle i det endelige resultatet. Og så langt som består statistikk, henvises det til ett av følgende…

            http://blog.metrotrends.org/2012/08/stand-ground-laws-worsen-racial-disparities/

            http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/07/13/stand-your-ground-laws-increases-racial-bias-in-justifiable-homicide-trials/

            Ha en fin dag.

          • Nathanial Poling

            hadde du egentlig bare legge inn et par tilfeldige blogger?

            Nå kan gå videre til noen virkelige statistikk:
            Men omtrent en tredjedel av Florida “stå på bakken” krav i
            fatale tilfeller har blitt gjort av svarte tiltalte, og de har brukt
            forsvar vellykket 55 prosent av tiden, i samme takt som den
            befolkningen for øvrig og på en høyere rente enn hvite tiltalte,
            ifølge en Daily Caller analyse av en database vedlikeholdt av Tampa Bay Times. Dess, flertallet av ofrene i Florida “Stand Your Ground” saker har vært hvit.

            Afroamerikanere brukt “Stand Your Ground” forsvar på nesten det dobbelte av frekvensen av deres tilstedeværelse i Florida befolkningen, som ble notert hos 16.6 prosent i 2012.

            http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law/fatal-cases

            Dessuten, Jeg har nettopp lest en sak i New York i 2009: http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

            Slags tilbakeviser hele løpet kort argument at president Obama og andre spilte med denne saken at en svart voksen ville ikke ha bli frikjent dersom de drepte en hvit tenåring.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Nathanial,

            Jeg har ikke tenkt til å anta noe om deg for et øyeblikk enn du tydelig ikke liker å være feil, og du også elsker å forsvare en kontroversiell lov. Enten du vil innrømme det eller ikke, og finne statistikk som støtter din fortelling, som alle kan, SYG lover, enten påberopes i dette tilfellet eller ikke, har en innebygd rase misforhold. Jeg har absolutt ingen intensjon om å fortsette denne diskusjonen med deg. Hvorfor? Du kan spørre. Det er å oppnå absolutt ingenting. Din mening er ikke til å endre seg og det er heller ikke mitt. Betyr det at jeg ikke kan eller ikke respekterer deg? Ikke i det hele tatt. Det betyr at jeg er lei av å slå en død hest med deg. Civil diskurs er virkelig mangler i dette landet, og dette er nok et bevis på at vi har en lang vei å gå for at vi skal være en nasjon under Gud. Jeg ber om Hans kjærlighet gjennomsyrer ditt hjerte, så vel som mine og alle andre som kan snuble over denne bloggen. Ha en god kveld.

          • Nathanial Poling

            Marvin,
            Jeg ser du gikk langs mitt svar. Jeg vil be for deg også at Gud fjerner din “løp” skylapper som påvirker dine argumenter. Jeg vet at rasisme vil alltid eksistere fra alle raser mot andre, men det er noen mennesker der ute som har gått utover løpet og hver hendelse ikke alltid har å gjøre med fargen på huden. Jeg ville ha vært støttende hvis bevis viste at Zimmerman var skyldig i en forbrytelse, men jeg vil fortsette å argumentere med noen som har vært sterkt påvirket av en nesten 100% hvite medier med falske motiver til å male denne historien til noe som ville trekke seere og gjøre dem mer penger, samt presse sin anti-gun agenda. De pyntes video, lydbånd og mange andre fortellinger å rile opp den afroamerikanske samfunn, og jeg tror det er en parodi. Jeg håper Zimmerman saksøker sine bukser off for ærekrenkelse og bakvaskelse.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Nathanial,

            Selv om du ber om at Gud fjerner rase skylappene fra øynene mine mens forutsatt at er grunnen til at jeg holder meningene jeg holder, Vær klar over at bønn sannsynligvis ikke vil gjøre det siste taket ditt. Jeg gikk langs svaret ditt fordi jeg ikke føler behov for å svare deg når du ikke aner hva du snakker om hvor jeg er bekymret. Du kan ikke blande en bønn om kjærlighet og hat alt på samme tid. Din antagelse at bare fordi Trayvon Martin var svart, og er grunnen til at jeg føler slik jeg gjør er helt klart feil. Jeg har ikke tenkt å forsvare denne uttalelsen videre til din eller noen andre fordi på slutten av dagen, du kommer til å fortsatt føle måten du gjør og være hyklersk om det. Det er fornærmet som en troende for deg å selv prøve å komme over den måten at du er når du vet selv at visdom er en gudgitt rektor at det hadde blitt brukt den kvelden på George Zimmerman del, vi ikke ville ha denne diskusjonen. Du ser min venn, Satan kommer til å dele, og han er absolutt gjør jobben sin med dette problemet. Jeg holder mine meninger fordi en ung manns liv ble tatt–Kloss, PERIODE! Det faktum at du er så trangsynt om det i anta at fordi jeg er svart og Trayvon Martin er svart, Jeg føler denne måten, er tydelig absurd. For at du skal snakke om rase skylapper blir fjernet fra øynene mine mens du tydelig iført din egen er latterlig for meg. I stedet for å be for noen andre, kan det være lurt å be Gud om å begynne med hjertet først. Du kan bli overrasket over hva Han åpenbarer for deg.

          • Nathanial Poling

            du startet med å be, så ikke forelese meg om hva vi skal be om. Jeg tror du trenger å sjekke ditt eget hjerte, det var tydelig at dette var om rase, fordi jeg tviler på dette ville ha gjort det siste lokale nyheter og inn i de fleste folks sinn om denne saken hadde vært svart på svart eller svart på hvitt. Hvis du ikke ønsker å innse fakta, det er ditt valg, men det er mange saker som støtter mitt syn inkludert svart mann i New York, som skjøt en hvit tenåring iført hettegenser og ble fullstendig frifunnet på alle kostnader. Det ble ingen nasjonale medier dukke opp, ingen hvite rase baiters ringer for protester. Denne historien vil være helt annerledes hadde Martin ikke angrepet Zimmerman og jeg ville støtte mange av dine synspunkter, men det andre Martin bestemte han skulle gjøre skade på Zimmerman og slo hodet mot fortauet og punch ansiktet i, Han satt seg opp til å bli skutt. Periode.. slutt på historien… kaste ut løpet, og det er de klare og enkle fakta.

          • Marvin Lee McManus

            Wow. Ikke rart det er fortsatt fryktelig rase relasjoner i dette landet. Det er mer enn tydelig uansett hva jeg har sagt eller hvordan jeg har uttrykt meg, du er fornøyd med å generalisere min reaksjon og mine følelser. Når det er sagt, nyte bønn tid og har et flott liv. Jeg håper å se deg på den andre siden.

    • NicoleSvare

      Jeg er enig med å oppnå balanse i å definere alle sosial urettferdighet. derimot, det var lyd i begynnelsen hvor han brukte en rasistisk Nedsmelting og han har en historie for å ringe på svart gutter i nabolaget. Race kan ikke være den eneste faktoren, men det er.

      • jonathansampsonSvare

        Nicole, George kalte ham en “Fortsett,” og en “f * cking punk.” Den eneste bevis for noen rasistiske bemerkninger kom da Jeantel tok stativet og vitnet om at mens hun var på telefonen med Trayvon, Trayvon kalt George en “skummel ass cracka,” og senere en “nigga”.

        George veiledet (minst to) svarte barn, tok en svart jente til prom, og hadde støtte av svarte i nabolaget hans i sin rolle av nabolaget watch. Det var absolutt ingen bevis for at Trayvon var rasistisk profilert, eller at George er rasistisk.

        • pepjrpSvare

          God jobb som du vet at ting. Synd det bare 1 millioner av så svarte mennesker der ute til å utdanne på sannheten i denne saken som du gjorde med Bean og Nicole. Utrolig hvor så mange ønsker å tro rasehat og kan ikke spre det fort nok.

        • bønnerSvare

          Hmm.. Jeg tror det var “coon” ikke goon. Det er et rasistisk begrep.

          Hva gjør denne saken nå uansett? Er vi alle bare slåss bare for vårt synspunkt ennå igjen?? Jeg har ennå å se noen på dette forumet utveksling noe menings.

          Jeg vil aldri forstå dette.. vi er ment å være i kirken.

        • jonathansampsonSvare

          Diskusjonen var mellom coon og goon - forskjellen av c og en g. George venn av omtrent et tiår (og svart, Hvis som teller) mener begrepet ble brukt “Fortsett,” sier han ikke har hørt noen yngre enn sine 40 eller 50 bruk “coon” som en rase slur. Jeg personlig har ikke hørt coon brukt som en Nedsettende; Jeg har bare hørt det brukt som en referanse til vaskebjørn.

          Når du undersøker dette en tvetydig lydklipp i lys av alt annet, det er mer fornuftig at han sa “Fortsett”. Tross alt, Joe Oliver (George svarte venn) sa at i et tiår han aldri har sett noe som skulle tilsi George er rasistisk. George tok en svart jente til prom, og veiledet unge svarte barn. Det er ingen indikasjon på at han ser noen andre som er mindre enn han på grunn av sin hudfarge.

          Denne debatten er viktig fordi kirken er bygd opp av alle forskjellige typer mennesker, svart og hvit. En slik tragisk historie som dette kan føre til store splittelser i den synlige kroppen, og som sådan bør vi alle være interessert i å jobbe ut sannheten, basert på fornuft og bevis, slik at man unngår unødvendige problemer i kroppen.

        • pepjrpSvare

          Nei, Han sa at det er fu **** g kaldt. Google det. Lytt til lyd. FBI uttalt at det var det som ble sagt. Det var ingen rasistiske buer med unntak av Martin.

        • bønnerSvare

          Kanskje han ikke si et rasistisk begrep da. Jeg vet ikke hva som var i hans sinn, men jeg personlig tror ikke Zimmerman var en rasistisk. Han gjorde imidlertid “rasistisk profil” Trayvon. Og det er tragisk i seg selv for mange grunner…

          Og dermed, vi trenger å diskutere…1. Hvordan vi håndterer den relativt høyere kriminalitet i det svarte samfunnet trenger? Har folk selv har lyst til å gjøre noe med dette som så mange sier det er en “svart” problem? 2. Hvordan kan vi stoppe pigeonholing folk inn i visse stereotypier basert på farge? Er det media? Hva om denne statistikken, hva gjør de virkelig mener? 3. Hvordan kan vi være mer forenet? Se hverandres synspunkter? Kanskje har flere fora der folk diskutere sine erfaringer?

          Jeg ønsker å ha den diskusjonen, men slåss mot hverandre ikke kommer til å hjelpe. Hva er poenget med hurling fornærmelser? Det bringer opp 1960. Den peker ut svart på svart kriminalitet som noen begrunnelse.. Hvorfor er folk gjør dette? Bare for å såre hverandre?

          som kristne, hvordan kan vi være et eksempel på hvordan å komme sammen i vanskelige situasjoner som dette? Hvordan kan vi bruke Jesu eksempel å ikke plukke flisen ut av vår brors øye- men for å granske oss selv og spørre om vi gjør alt vi kan for å gjøre verden til et bedre sted?

      • pepjrpSvare

        feil Nicole… mer løgn og unøyaktigheter fra regatta hustlers og liberale media. Det vil ta lang tid for utilbørlig alle løgnene som altfor mange svarte er mer enn glade for å tro. Nicole, du vet ikke fakta. Vennligst lære dem.

      • Nathanial PolingSvare

        Nicole, fikk du lytte til rettssaken? De eneste rasistisk art skulle komme ut av munnen på Martin i henhold til hans venn som snakket til ham på telefonen.

        • lewritesSvare

          First off, Jeg mener ingen aktelse…Jeg er hvit / indiansk. Men jeg har bare hørt “Fortsett” i referanse til svarte mennesker. Og så langt som hva Jonathan Thompson sier…Jeg har hørt og kjent folk som mentor svarte barna fordi de ønsker å “civilize” dem eller bare fordi de ønsker å gjøre sin gode gjerning av dagen ved å hjelpe en annen rase.

          Jeg sier ikke at Martin hadde rett til å si hva han sa. Langt ifra. Jeg tror begge sider gjorde galt i denne saken, og jeg tror ikke vi noen gang vil få vite sannheten. Tross alt, mange mennesker har vært i stand til å komme unna med mord ved å gjøre alle mener deres historie…var det en sak i mitt hjem tilstand hvor en fyr drepte en tenåringsjente og fikk folk til å lyve for ham og gi ham alibi. Omsider folk kom ut og fortelle sannheten, men jeg sier bare bare fordi han ble frikjent, og folk sa alt dette om ham betyr ikke at de ikke var å være uærlig. Jeg er heller ikke å si at han var å være uærlig, enten.

          Et annet tilfelle i mitt hjem staten involvert en fotballspiller som blir slått til døde av to gutter fra en annen skole i konferansen. Til tross øyenvitne kontoer, en av disse to mennene gikk av scott gratis, den andre var i stand til å få redusert straff for uaktsomt drap. Folk vitne disse to unge mennene Sucker Punch denne fyren mens han hadde ryggen vendt til dem, og de fortsatte å slå ham til han var på bakken, bevisstløs, da de splittet da de hørte sirener. Og en av dem klarer å gå.

          Det er store hull i rettsvesenet, bare fordi noen er frikjent betyr ikke at de er uskyldig. På den andre siden, nok av folk som er bevist skyldig og selv henrettet som senere viste seg å være uskyldig. Bare to folk vet sikkert hva som skjedde den kvelden

        • jonathansampsonSvare

          Jeg har ikke hørt “Fortsett” brukt som en rasistisk Nedsmelting for svarte mennesker. Bare gikk tilbake for å sjekke Urban Dictionary, og det ser ikke ut til å nevne rase i noen av sine topp definisjoner.

          EN “Fortsett” er vanligvis noen dumme, eller stor. Mafia ledere kan sende sine “goons” ut for å gjøre sin budgivning. Bare for å være grundig sjekket jeg etymologien, og det også ikke viser noen rasistiske assosiasjoner. Attributter det til sjømenn, muskuløse personer, og senere i historien til å forbrytere.

          Som for hva dine kommentarer om mentoring unge svarte barn fordi du vil “sivilisere dem,” vi kan ikke anta folks motiver basert på våre egne forutinntatte dommer av dem - det er rett og slett ikke rettferdig. Hvis George veiledet svarte barn, og jeg har ikke grunnlag for å anta noe tilskudd konspirasjon fra hans side, Jeg må anta at det er fordi han virkelig brydde seg om dem.

          Ergo i Zimmerman saken er at bevisene viser George var på bunnen. Travyon knokene vise at han var punching noen. hode George ble stygt forslått og banket opp. Han var samarbeidsvillig selv før å ha en advokat, selv tar politiet ut å gjen hva som skjedde. Etterforskere tok sin historie om og om igjen, flere forskjellige tider, leter etter tegn på svik og fant ingen. Ved alle tiltak virker det som George var i frykt for stor legemsbeskadigelse, eller død. Vi har ikke grunnlag for å foreslå ellers.

          Jeg er enig i at folk gjør forferdelige ting og komme unna med det, mens andre er urettferdig straffet for forbrytelser de ikke har begått. Jeg tror ikke den tidligere gjelder George; ikke basert på bevis. Men jeg tror det siste gjør som han nå å måtte skjule for å beskytte seg selv og sin familie, mens verden maling ham som rasist - forårsaker hvite og svarte over å ønske ham død.

          Det er hull i systemet; vil ikke hevde at. Men vi har ikke grunnlag for vilkårlig tillegge eventuelle konsekvenser som følge av disse hullene – ikke uten noen form for bevis, eller faste resonnement. Alt i dette tilfellet, alle data vi har hatt gjennom måneder med granskning, foreslår George har vært ærlig om den kvelden. Øyenvitne vitnesbyrd støtter hans historie. Ear-vitneutsagn støtter hans historie. Fakta ikke blir feiljustert seg med sin historie. Vi må, ut av respekt for årsak, reservere noen ytterligere spekulasjoner og dom for Gud.

          Hvis du vil se et klart tilfelle av uskyldige slakting, ser ikke lenger enn John Spooner. En mann i 70-årene skutt en ung svart barn to ganger i fullt dagslys i fjor. Knowing “hvit privilegium” vil ikke beskytte ham, Han avviklet bedende galskap. Det ville være et godt sted å lete etter rasisme – Zimmerman rettssaken er ikke. Å være lys-skinned ikke lar deg slippe unna med mord.

        • lewritesSvare

          Du har rett, vi kan ikke anta noe, Jeg definitivt enig. Det jeg prøver å gjøre er å spille djevelens advokat. Jeg vet å være lys skinned ikke får du unna med mord (i tilfelle av fyren drepe en jente, fyren var hvit, i tilfelle av fotballspiller, alle parter var svart).
          Men det er ikke helt utenfor boksen for å tenke…vi vil…utenfor boksen. Urban Dictionary Jeg har egentlig ikke gå til for mye informasjon fordi mye av det jeg hører rundt der jeg bor er så forskjellig fra det som er lagt opp på dette nettstedet. Kanskje min region tildeler ulike ord ulike betydninger. Akkurat som en tommelen opp i visse samfunn tilsvarer langfingeren.
          Jeg ble seksuelt misbrukt som en ung gutt med en person som ingen ville noen gang mistenkt ville gjøre noe slikt. En god track record, gode foreldre, tilsynelatende en god person. Alle antok så mye…ikke sant? Hvis noen er så bra, hvordan kunne de gjøre noe sånt til meg?
          Det er nok å si, dette tilfellet bringer opp gode diskusjonspunkter, uavhengig av om rasisme var motivasjonen. Yeah, de media som mates på den, og det var syk at de gjorde det. Jeg var en media store på college, vi er lært opp til å være objektive, men noen folk selger ut til aksjeselskap for å gjøre en bedre historie, det er feil.
          Det er derfor jeg ber for både familier, Jeg la det opp til Gud å være den endelige dommer, fordi i slutten, Han er den eneste som har plass til å gjøre det. Jeg beklager hvis jeg forårsaket noen mangel på respekt, Jeg mente ingen.

    • pepjrpSvare

      Mediene bryr seg ikke om din historie, fordi du ikke er svart. Hvite og latinamerikanere er i trådkorset for rasistiske ledere som Jackson og Sharptin.

    • pepjrpSvare

      Du nøyaktig riktig så denne forfatteren feilaktig brakt i løpet når han sa at Zimmerman profilert Martin og du klokt ga fakta som ble utelatt. Rasehat kan fremme når folk rapporterer uansvarlig. Han har også utelatt eller ikke vet at Martin ikke gå på fortauene når du går hjem, han skjære gjennom yards bare noen få fot fra hus og dører bringe mistanke på seg. Zimmerman rapportert at levende til 911 operatør som han gikk og eyed Martin. Akkurat som han rapporterte direkte at Martin var borte og han hadde mistet ham. Hvorfor gjorde Martin komme tilbake som minuttene gikk, og hvorfor er dette viktige faktum utelatt av nettverk og massene? Et faktum han har uttalt mange ganger, men alltid utelatt av de svarte massene og selvfølgelig, rase hustlers som Jackson og Sharptin.

  2. gdoggydog05Svare

    problemet er, også, at ingen vil innrømme at det også er rasistisk for folk å velge denne saken som viktig som alle er innstilt på å, og har en mening om, på grunnlag av rase. Jeg setter pris på din omtanke ovenfor, da dette er en av de mindre uvitende innlegg som jeg har lest, men jeg er en hvit 26 år gammel mann fra suborbs og jeg har også blitt bedrøvet av denne saken. Det er ikke bare den profileringen som beviser rasisme fortsatt er i live. Det faktum at denne saken er kjent i det hele tatt er rasisme på sin reneste form. Vi snakker om denne saken fordi en svart gutt er død. Vi har ansett en svart trajedy (Kanskje skjer det oftere, og det er tragisk, men ikke mitt poeng her) å være viktigere enn alle de andre tusenvis av tragedier hver dag. Det er alle slags trajedies av svarte mennesker dreper hvite folk og til og med rasistisk motivert seg, som ikke er rapportert og glasert, og dette også, blir en normal ting. På Wisconsin rettferdig, Jeg tror det var, for noen år siden en flash mob består av afrikansk amerikanske tenåringer ransaket de rettferdige og koordinerte angrep mot hvite beskyttet, i noen tilfeller slo de eldre folk i ansiktet, gikk inn i lokale boliger og forretninger med tall og stjal og skremt med makt, og ingen mediedekning. Kunne du tenke deg om en gruppe hvite tenåringer målrettet svarte? Medie en velger, og hvis du velger, Hvis du bare fokusere på “bare en svart person kan forstå” side av dette tilfellet, at en svart tragedie er det viktigste, selv nå, mens hispanics, kinesisk, hvitt, blir drept på en lignende måte. Denne saken kan være symbolsk for en slags svart “streve,” det skjønner jeg. Men dette er ikke måten å løse det. Jeg vet for et ansikt som dette bare utvider kløften mellom oss. Du har fortalt meg som en hvit mann som jeg ikke forstår hvordan det er å være profilert, men faktisk jeg ble profilert alle de samme måtene, som ung mann. jeg er enig, det er mer så med mørk farget hud, men “ung” har noe å gjøre med det også. Du sier jeg aldri vil forstå, men kanskje du vil aldri forstå hva det gjør meg føler at når alle mine sorte kristne brødre fokusere på martin, og ikke engang erkjenner det faktum at det er feil i første omgang til å velge dette trajedy som viktigere de hundrevis av lignende trajedys som oppstår daglig. Jeg tror det er synd. Det er en mening. At noen slags syndig tankegangen står bak alle forekomster av å velge en rase over en annen. Og jeg tror ” du ikke har vært i mine sko” bare utvider at kløften mellom løp og er en urettferdig uttalelse. Vet du hvordan det er for meg å ikke gå på college, fordi jeg ikke har 8 grand legging rundt, mens du ser på afrikanske amerikanere med de samme karakterene få min plass og et stipend? Du trenger sannsynligvis ikke. Mitt poeng er, at hver gang du sier “du vet ikke hva det er å være min farge,” du ikke gjør noe produktivt, fordi jeg aldri kan være din farge. Jeg tror at svarte er like blind for de problemene som forårsaker et dypt skille mellom løpene. Afro-amerikanere ser på dette Travon Martin ting og tenker en ting, mens Whites tenker noe helt annet. “Er det rett og rettferdighet for denne saken å bli valgt som viktig, og berømte, og større enn alle de andre, på grunnlag av rase?” Jeg har ennå å se en African American Christian å nevne dette. Og for å ignorere dette faktum er å være uvitende. Det kan være noen sannhet at svarte er profilert, men velger å sette en sak på en skjerm basert på rase er galt, og respektløst overfor andre raser som blir drept på samme måte som travon var.

    • Deborah Bilbo-ConeySvare

      Gdoggy, alt du har sagt er fornuftig. Jeg er svart og mor til to sønner som jeg reist for å se folk for deres karakter og godhet ikke fargen på huden. Mine sønner har datert hvite jenter, Hawaiian jenter, etc. og jeg alltid fortalt dem at jeg hadde ikke noe problem med det fordi vi alle er skapt av en Gud som er rettferdig. Man skapte dette skillet for lenge siden ved Babels tårn. Dette blir sagt, videre til rettssaken. Ja, Trayvon sak ble sendt, og det var en preferanse for en kombinasjon av vedvarende mennesker og de trekke oppmerksomhet til saken. Hva noen svarte mennesker ikke forstår er at svarte mennesker er rasistisk for. Vi må gjøre en bevisst innsats for å ikke skylde alt på rase. Det handler ikke om rase alene, det handler om George Zimmerman ikke adlyde politiet da de fortalte ham “Ikke følge.” Nå er noen av de negative konklusjonene er trukket fra sin ulydighet mot de aller lov som til slutt beskyttet ham med Stand Your Ground lov. Jeg føler stor sympati for Trayvon familie, spesielt hans mor ikke fordi han var en svart gutt, men fordi han var en mors CHILD! Kriminalitet er galt uansett hvem som begår den, men ble han virkelig å begå en forbrytelse ved å ikke gå på fortauet? Zimmerman var for rask til å handle, han burde ha ventet litt lenger for å se hva Trayvon handlinger var, hvis han skulle se i et vindu eller prøve å bryte i en dør før du følger ham. Poenget er GEORGE ZIMMERMAN adlød En direkte kommando fra politi! Gjøre regnestykket.

      • gdoggydog05Svare

        Takk for din forståelse mine kommentarer. å høre fra afrikanske amerikanere som deg, gir meg håp. Jeg er enig george Zimmerman ble konstituert tåpelig. han burde ha ventet på politiet, Uansett hvor sint han var at nabolaget holdt får brutt inn….Ja du har rett. ikke desto mindre, for ulydighet den kommandoen alene, Jeg tror ikke han bør gå til fengsel på livstid eller bli siktet for drap. Vi må se på den enkelte hendelsen. ikke nødvendigvis hva som skjer. la meg gi deg et eksempel. ok to eksempler som jeg tror holder rettferdighet i tankene. i ett tilfelle, en mann kull…. Han kjenner sin feil, men i et øyeblikk av svakhet, mens du kjører nedover veien han kaster sin milkshake fra McDonalds ut av vinduet….. senere, noen ser milshake, mener det er en kanin Kanin (Jeg vet at disse eksemplene er latterlig, bære med meg) og swerves, vrak bilen og dør. hva er mannen skyldig i? mord? …. nei han er skyldig i forsøpling. all synd fører til mord. synd er grunnen til at Kristus måtte dø. Men her på jorden, vi blir dømt i henhold til kriminalitet, å holde orden. Greit, her er en annen lignende scenario der et mindre handling fører til en større reaksjon. En lat person som ikke fungerer godt nok på å fokusere på viktige oppgaver som å lete etter henne 2 år gamle sønn…. har sitt spedbarn i bilen med bilen i gang og garasjeport ned… glemmer hennes mobiltelefon i huset….. en samtale kommer gjennom, hun bruker på time på samtalen og kommer ut og hennes barn er død. Hva er hun skyldig? Bare latskap og glemsomhet? Godt, hennes barn kan ikke forsvare seg. Han er et barn. Hun visste at hun var ansvarlig og hennes uaktsom handling forårsaket hans død. Dette er drap. Barnet hadde ingen del i it.Only hun er skyldig. ok, Zimmerman skal være skyldig i obstruksjon av rettferdighet og kanskje noen andre ting …. men, Hvis det stemmer at travon slått på ham og ble trykket ham, og da han skjøt ham. George Zimmerman er skyldig i ulydig politiet. Men det er en annen fri vilje part involvert. Hvis Travon hadde, si, 3 valg….. løpe (Han var nesten definitivt raskere….. gå inn….. eller kanskje være sint og konfrontere george på hvorfor han ble plager ham. vet ikke hva han gjorde. Det er poenget. Hvis han prøvde å komme seg bort og ble jaget av Zimmerman, sin mord. Men hvis travon, i stolthet, ønsket å være aggressiv (Jeg kan forstå dette….i fortiden, dette ville ha vært meg )…. deretter på det punktet, gjorde han også en fri vilje beslutning som ble spilt inn i det endelige resultatet. Problemet er at vi ikke vet hvem av dem som oppstod. Hvis vi begynner å belaste mennesker basert på ringvirkningene av våre løgner, og alle våre synder….Jeg tror du vil finne at vi bør alle være innelåst. George zzimmerman er skyldig å hindre med politiet….og kan være skyldig i mer, men uten å være der, Jeg vet bare ikke hva.

        • bønnerSvare

          Zimmerman ikke får ladet er hva jeg tror voldshandling virkelig var om. Jeg er svart, men min støtte er ikke basert på rase i det hele tatt. Hvis løpene ble snudd jeg ville føle seg 100% på nøyaktig samme måte. En mann med en pistol mot en gutt.

          Jeg tror også at når du er skaperen av den fare eller farlig situasjon.. du er skyldig til en viss grad… Jeg skulle bare ønske FL hadde noen lov som kunne straffe ham, fordi Z gikk ut på jakt etter problemer den kvelden.

          Jeg tror virkelig hvis en politimann nærmet Trayvon, Trayon om opprørt, vil fortsatt være i live i dag. Jeg antar det er derfor jeg er så opprørt. Jeg ser denne situasjonen som en gutt som mistet livet blir holdt til samme, om ikke mer, ansvar som en mann.

          • Rita

            SB, Av alle youtubes som er den mest ofniesfve jeg noensinne har sett. Hun er like rasistisk som Sharpton og Jackson. Jeg har aldri vært så flau over landet mitt helt siden det svart SOB vunnet på en skjev rase!Når hun bærer disse leggings off AF1 jeg går f'king nøtter.

      • Nathanial PolingSvare

        De sa at du ikke trenger å følge ham… som ikke synes å være en direkte kommando. Dessuten, en operatør på 9-1-1 har ikke endelige autoritet. Det var forferdelig at en gutt måtte dø, men jeg tviler på dine godt oppdratt guttene ville noensinne har angrepet Mr. Zimmerman og slo hodet mot fortauet og brakk nesa. Han ville ha spurt dem hvem de var, de kunne ha svarte høflig og hvorfor de kjørte mellom husene i et inngjerdet og livet går videre.

      • pepjrpSvare

        Din en hyggelig dame Deborah, men du tar feil som kan være når du sier det handler om George Zimmerman ikke adlyde politiet da de fortalte ham “Ikke følge.” Han gjorde ikke disobey noen. Lytt til lyden på Youtube! Han sa OK og begynte å gå tilbake til sin lastebil. Han var andpusten da han fulgte Martin, men etter at han sa OK, tung pust stoppet da han svarte et par flere spørsmål om adresse for politiet og deretter henger han opp som et antall minutter hadde gått, og han sier klart og tydelig at han ikke vet hvor Martin gikk. Martin var bare 50 kilometer fra sitt hjem, men han kom tilbake på scenen. Din kommentar til bunnlinjen er GEORGE ZIMMERMAN adlød En direkte kommando fra politi er helt nonfactual og du ser ikke ut som den type person som ønsker å spre løgner. Du har blitt løyet til som har 1000-tallet og 1000 er av andre! Lytt og forskning, og du vil finne ut at jeg forteller deg sannheten! og teknisk, de 911 Operatøren sa til Zimmerman “Vi trenger ikke å gjøre det”. Zimmerman sa OK, og du kan høre at han stoppet. Få fakta ikke tror de rasistiske løgner.

    • Andrew KeeterSvare

      Trip Jeg må
      enig med gdoggydog05
      fordi han forklarer sin situasjon svært godt.
      Denne konfrontasjonen mellom Zimmermann og Martin var noe som
      skjer på daglig basis i dette landet, og så mye av en tragedie som det er å
      se en ung mann drept, det er mer av en tragedie å se media snu dette til
      en rase drevet forsøk med ingen mulig godt resultat hvis Zimmermann ble funnet ikke
      skyldig. Den kvelden Trayvon var skutt
      Det var ingen rase profilering av Zimmermann som kan bevises. Mediene sammen med Jesse Jackon, Al
      Sharpton, President Obama, The New Black Panthers og andre store tid
      Afroamerikanske kjendiser sto opp for å gi sitt syn på hva de mener
      skjedde da ingen bortsett Trayvon Martin og George Zimmermann virkelig visste hva
      skjedde. Disse handlingene skapt en storm
      rase vold diskusjon som ikke kunne stoppes. Jeg tror vi skal be om begge sider av denne
      prøving og ber om at Gud steg i å trøste dem som er vondt, Angered, og
      forvirret om hele denne situasjonen.
      Satan has control of the media in this country and he does what he wants
      with it. You only hear about the stories
      that will get the most attention so then these biased media stations can sell
      air time for businesses to show commercials.
      I mean how much more do you think they charged during the times of this
      trial on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC and other affiliates so that businesses could get
      their commercials on selling their products to the public. It’s not about reporting the news on the
      death of a young man way before his time and the person who shot him…..it’s
      about money which is the root of all evil.
      These media stations have been showing this trail for the past three
      weeks collecting more and more money just loving it. I bet they hoped the trial would go on longer
      so they could keep raking in the profits.
      It’s sick how we give so much of our lives to the TV and obey it like it
      is our teacher when we should be focusing on Jesus. You even have a song talking about taking
      your eyes of you and putting them on Him.
      We need to take our eyes off the TV and focus on our own community and churches. If we live in California, Virginia, New York,
      Montana, Texas, etc… we can’t change what happened in Florida where Trayvon
      ble skutt, but we can change the way our community acts. We teach our children about God, Jesus, og
      the Holy Spirit. We elect community
      leaders, government officials, police chiefs, mayors, etc that stand for our Christian
      values and won’t back down when they are threatened by those who still have the
      veil over their eyes. We can’t keep
      focusing on what is happening hours away when our own community is struggling
      from the same issues. I’m a white 28
      male who has served this country fighting in the Iraq war. I deployed to a country where they have
      nothing and saw all the many things I still take for granted today that these
      people would give an arm or leg to have.
      It made me realize there are much bigger problems in this world than the
      minor bickering we continue to do. Satan
      wants to rile people up and get them all upset over racial violence. Someone else said it in their post, but I’ll
      say it too. The only color we need to be
      concerned with is the color red—representing the blood of Jesus. I truly feel your pain in having racial
      profiling because when I was younger I had my own and still today I see
      den. Gdoggydog05 made a great point about
      white children who can’t go to college because they don’t have the thousands of
      dollars lying around to blow, but children of other races are able to get money
      from the government to help them out.
      Same thing goes for jobs at fast food or businesses like that. I was racially profiled when I was younger
      trying to get a job at McDonalds and two kids who were a different race then me
      got the job and I didn’t. It’s not fair,
      but life isn’t fair sometimes and that is just showing you that Satan is
      getting at you. If God can forgive all
      your sin why would skin color be an issue with Him? Racial profiling is of this world, Satan is
      the ruler of this world until Jesus comes back to take it back. Until then we must live in this world, men vi
      don’t have to live for this world. Vi
      live for things higher than this world putting ourselves above race. We all have gone through struggles. Some have gone through struggles that were
      caused by the color of their skin. Some
      went through struggles because the way their body looks. Some went through internal struggles that
      were caused from birth. Some have done
      stuff they feel they could never get over and what happened to all these people
      when they came to know Christ? They all
      had help with their struggles. Han vil
      not let us fall and He will guide us through the struggles. This Trayvon vs Zimmermann thing needs to
      stop because a verdict has been reached.
      The justice system has done its job and we need to look at the
      facts. If this case was between two
      people of the same color we as a nation would have never heard of it and the
      same verdict would have been reached without anyone knowing. We need to stop letting the media and
      celebrities control our thoughts. If we
      put our faith in man then we will fail.
      Stop focusing on them and put your eyes on HIM.

  3. MattySvare

    While I completely agree with everything said here, I think it’s important to follow the facts and not our emotions in this case. Local police and the FBI have determined that racism did not play a role in this case. They found no evidence that Zimmerman profiled Martin based on his race. They found evidence that Zimmerman profiled Martin based on suspicious activity. Zimmerman only responded when asked by the police with what race Martin was. He didn’t call up and say he was following a young black man. I’m not saying it wasn’t racial profiling. But the evidence does not allow us to make that determination. And blindly choosing to believe it was racial when there is no evidence to that fact makes the case racial when it doesn’t need to be. Race didn’t come up in the trial. If the prosecution believed Zimmerman was acting out of racist motives, don’t you think that would have come up? The prosecution needed to get the jurors on their sidepainting Zimmerman as a racist would have been the best way to do that.

    The issue you spoke about is incredibly real and incredibly ugly. I’m just arguing that in this case, painting it as a racist matter when the evidence doesn’t support it is dangerous and unhealthy.

  4. Samuel ColemanSvare

    http://youtu.be/DOSyr5VZK3g

    Watch this Video….

    Trip I love and Respect you, your music and your message but I totally agree with Jonathan Sampson below….

    I do agree that there is definitely racism today but this case getting media attention is a bunch of crap.

    All of the cases that Glen Beck talked about GOT 000000000 Media attention…. Hvorfor ??/ bec we have a Liberal non Christian Country who is following the Father the Devil…. And we have a President who plays the race card ever minute .. hvorfor ? To get what he wants …. not for Justice not for Truth….

    As a white man my brother was held at gun point bec he was white.. as a white man My father and his college friend were out witnessing and Got circled by a gang of Blacks bec white boys were not supposed to be in that area of town.. my brothers friend got pistol wiped and let them go.. My dad spoke the words of the Holy Spirit, asking the menare you hungryand God knowing they had not eaten in a few days saved my Father…….

    No I am not a black man but I feel horrible for Trayvon and when there is REAL racism

    Our Country is going down the drain.. romerne 1. God has given us up to the Depraved mind…. What we have seen is nothing in comparison to what is going to come.. Mark my wards if America continues in the way that it is going it will be Illegal to be a Christian and we will be murdered in the streets..

  5. DaveSvare

    Appreciate the article, Tur.
    One thing I think that’s good for us as Christians to keep in mind is that we should hate racism/injustice period, no matter what form or fashion it comes in or color it’s directed towards. The sad thing about things like this case concerning Trayvon is the gap often becomes wider & it seems more steps are taken backwards rather than forwards, because many default to taking natural sides (color for instance) rather than choosing sides based on justice/injustice. The kingdom of God must change the way the lenses we’re wearing see the world. We have to be about acting justly over acting according to our own race. We have to be about loving mercy over being fueled by selfish anger.
    This is not ultimately a racial issue. This is a human sin issue that shows itself in many different forms, sometimes by taking sides based on race. People from all different races stereotype & profile eachother. We must not set up a certain color (different than our own) as the enemy. Individuals with sinful hearts stereotype. It’s not the races in & of themselves ultimately that do that. If we forget that & live below the line of that which is expected of kingdom citizens, we’ll draw lines based on race & just end up adding to the noise.
    May we fight for justice where it needs to be fought for, not simply for those we can relate to, but for those who are in need regardless. Satan & Sin are the enemies. And they have been defeated by Jesus at the cross & the empty tomb. May we first be defined by the color red over any other, the color of the blood of Christ that washed us clean.

    • NicoleSvare

      I definitely agree that race is ultimately a sin issue, it is not to be denied. But defining specific sin issues helps us tackle them more effectively. Sex trafficking is at the root, a lust issue but tackling that is very different than tackling a personal sin addiction. The Bible has many examples of such specifications as well. And all activism should work toward pointing people to Christ, the only real solution.

      • bønnerSvare

        I am Christian first, black second- or third or to be honest I am just a Christian. I support Trayvon and his family not because he was black, but because he was a kid. A death sentence for a punch is too hard a sentence for my heart or my conscience to handle. Trayvon had so much to learn in lifeDid we not end eye for and eye, tooth for a tooth justice with Jesus? Could Trayvon not have been shot in the arm or the leg? Why his heart? I am just so sad for the loss of life, and it would not matter what color he was- A child is dead. I also think as the adult, Zimmerman has more responsibility (in my eyes) to keep the situation calm. Nå, did he do that? Communicate in a friendly way that he was the watch? Only God knows. And only God will render true justice.
        All I know is I am not home and this [world] is not where I belong.

        • Nathanial PolingSvare

          Are you assuming Zimmerman aimed for his heart? I am sure Zimmerman would have preferred to not kill the teenager that was trying to beat his brains out.

        • bønnerSvare

          The bullet went straight through the heart, so it would be valid to assume that was Zimmerman’s intent.

          Whatever his preference was cannot change what he actually did. I am pretty sure if I was getting hurt, and I had a gun (which is unlikely), I would shoot his stomach, arm, leg- somewhere else apart from his heart.

        • Nathanial PolingSvare

          apparently you have never been in a fightif you had that much time to aim you could have shot in the air and let the guy run away

  6. TylorSvare

    let’s continue discussing the issue of racism, ja. but stop falsely associating racism with this case. after a year of collecting evidence nobody was ever able to find any shred of proof of racism in zimmerman’s past or on that night. let’s stop chasing ghosts and focus on real racismlike the kind the media showed throughout this case to stir up racial animosity and tear us apart just to increase their ratings.

  7. Tony ClineSvare

    Is it racist to assume that a black man is more of a danger than other races when African-Americans make up 12.6% of the population but commit 49.7% of murders, as well as a highly disproportionate percentage of rapes, assaults, robberies, and every other crime the FBI tracks except for DUI? Is that racist, or is it just intelligent decision-making based on relevant facts? I am not saying that racism does not exist; it does, and on all sides. derimot, there is more to the conversation than saying that everyone who feels unsafe around people that are statistically much more likely to be violent criminals is a racist.

  8. Washington DC EvangelistsSvare

    Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.~ Romans 12:19-21

  9. C.Svare

    I don’t really disagree with anything you said, especially with how ugly it is when people aren’t given the benefit of the doubt in those day to day moments. But having been friends with some cops I know that, for some of them, giving that benefit of the doubt would have gotten them killed. This world is so broken and nasty sometimes, with guilt and junk all over the place. Only Jesus can pull us out of it.

    I hate that you had to deal with that stuff. And I hate that in some ways profiling is a super ugly, awful necessity (not in the Zimmerman case). Its hard too, with media and culture that embraces the sort of image that almost preaches open, aggressiv, arrogant lawlessness. And that there are people making money off of this culture of violence and Godlessness. And that so many people who don’t understand what’s it’s like to be the other guy could care less about knowing what it means to be the other guy.

    I love that God’s love is so much mightier than the world. I just wish that God’s love would be more often displayed in the world through us, and not despite us.

    The conversation should definitely continue. :)

    Great stuff Mr. Lee. Gud velsigne!

  10. apallo95Svare

    while racism is a big deal a lot of people seem to forget that zimmerman was latino himself. just putting that out there as a fact that should be kept in mind when this case is discussed

  11. LizziSvare

    I believe a very effective way of fighting against racism is to have God-fearing, honest black men who live lives that undermine the stereotype for us to point to and say No, sin is the problem, not race. I have a very high opinion of almost all of the black men and women who I’ve been privileged to call friends and mentors. I’m more likely to be biased in their favor than anything elseReach Records is a huge factor in this, for a blonde girl growing in grace and being edified hugely by their music. What you are doing is very helpful.

  12. LynnSvare

    Amen and Amen!! We must love with the love of Christ and pray for both families that are involved. Racism is real and is heartbreaking for me to see. Thank you for sharing this!

  13. MIchaelSvare

    I wrote this early this evening before I read your post, which I totally get by the way, and I thought I would share it

    So in case you were hiding under a rock Zimmerman was found not guilty the other day. Some will congratulate, others will cry foul. This ruling has divided the country and in some cases even the church. I was reading a comment today from a person in the media, and their comments really made my blood boil. Personally I’ve given this a lot of thoughts, and I have my opinions, but this post isn’t about what I do or don’t think about Zimmerman’s aquital. Jesus said that the Thief comes to steal, kill and destroy….(John 10:10) Division is a silent killer. It grows from the seeds of bitterness that are planted in our hearts when we take our eyes off Jesus and the will come out if we aren’t careful. Luke 6:45 sier “The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart. ”

    When Jesus began his ministry the desciples saw Jesus as politcal activist. They were expecting Jesus to swoop in and right every wrong that Rome had ever done to the Jews. They probably were okay with Jesus cracking some Roman heads if it meant rectifying years of occupation. Yet from day one Jesus preached love and servant hood. At some point the disciples probablly figured out Jesus wasn’t going to Bruce Lee anybody. I wonder what they thought of that privately? The Jewish people had dealt with occupation for a very long time. In fact I believe from the last book of the Old Testament to the time of Jesus was something like 400 år. THose seeds of resentment and bitterness from being occupied had blossomed and they were ready to get even. The Messiah had finally come and it was time to rally the troops, hand out pitchforks and storm the castle. Yet while they were lighting the torches Jesus was out preaching love your neighbor and do unto others as you want them to do unto you. That had to drive them crazy. To add insult to injury as Jesus hung from the cross, He asked that the Father would forgive them, because they didn’t truly know what they were doing. So what does this all mean?

    Jesus was an activist of love and as his brothers and sisters we are implored, no we are commanded to do the same. Because at the end of the day Love is the only thing that will ever changes anything. We can storm a castle, and protest all we want, but there will always be a hidden agenda if we aren’t aware of it first. Love heals wounded hearts and unites broken relationships. Kjærlighet, builds up, encourages, and comforts. Love doesn’t condemn, or reject, it embraces. We are quick to forget that while we were yet ALL SINNERS Christ died his shed blood was made available to: The rich, the poor, the black, the white, (and every shade in between)the straight, the gay, the fatherless, the hopeless, hjemløse, the oppressed, the rejected, the religious, the islamic, the terrorist, the child molester the thief, the bank president, the lawyer, the fireman, politician, doctor, and every other person that has every drawn a breath on this earth, Jesus died for them. If there is a protest to be made then let it be at the gates of Hell by the bride of Christ, stating that We will love, we will serve, we will forgive as Jesus has done for us.

  14. EricSvare

    Why is it African American, I don’t call myself Irish American, I’m just American, I was born here not in Ireland. See that’s where segregation starts dividing up into groups, then the we’re better than you, starts. That segregation breeds racism, both were in the wrong, Trayvon, was for slamming Georgeshead into the ground, plus if he wasn’t doing anything wrong why wouldn’t he just comply? George should have listened to the dispatcher and let the cops handle it. But the burning of the American flag, not African American, Mexican American, Irish American, English American, or Scottish American flag, just American, is wrong. That’s like stepping on the hearts of every American that died protecting everything it stands for. The death threats to Georges family and numerous in the name of Trayvon killings that have occurred are way wrong. The Lord says turn to them your other cheek, or have we forgotten who is in charge here. Trayvon was no saint, and George was no murderer, they were both victims of circumstance. No one should have gotten beat up and no one should have lost their life. This was all a political play for power and the great deceiver has got what he wanted. Stay rooted in your word not media.

    • bønnerSvare

      I would LOVE to be considered just an American. Not an African American. But society alas will not allow me that. I am just as American as any one else. But the media has caused so much of a divide.. and people have bought into it.
      I remember one of the first jobs I had. A white lady sat next to me and told me.. “So do you know you are the first African -American we have hired?” She smiled and looked so proud. i mellomtiden, I felt ashamed, like some spectacle monkey that arrived at the zoo ready to show them how well their “først” black employee would do. Why did she have to point that out and make me feel soweird? I just wanted to be a normal kid at her second job out of college, but instead I became a paranoid mess..
      So why do I say African American? Godt, do I have a choice?

  15. gabetavianoSvare

    Awesome words, Tur. Sorry you’ve had to go through the situations you have. I admire you for speaking out about this, and for reminding those of us that have not. Press on!!!

  16. DavidSvare

    Trip Sharpton,

    This had nothing to do with racism. Åh, I forgot, you are black so you think that you have the moral authority to accuse anyone of racism. The rest of us are all racists. Beklager, that garbage has been stinking long enough. Time to empty the trash and yes it is time to move on.

  17. geebeeSvare

    I AM sorry you have experienced racial profiling in your life. Jeg, også, have been stared at and ignored for just saying
    “god morgen” to store clerks or folks I pass on the street. I have also been threatened and told I did not belong in a neighborhood and had better leave, because I am white. My daughter has been denied her right to vote twice, but I don’t think she isdisenfranchised”. But then I don’t have hate mongers like Al Sharpton and theNAACP speaking for me; only about me. As a nation, and as the Body of Christ, I think we need to think LESS about race and our differences and diversity, We need to get back to being thegreat American melting potas a nation, and to remind ourselves that we are all equal at the foot of the cross as the Church. The more race and racism is discussed, the more hatred I experience, which in turn, as a survival mechanism, makes me suspicious of other races and less likely to extend the Gospel to them. And if you don’t want to be treated like a possible thug, or wise guy, or redneck, don’t dress and act like one.

  18. Leslie Pollard StiversSvare

    I loved this post. I appreciate hearing your experiences and my heart breaks to remember the reality that profiling happens every day. I can’t help, derimot, to ask what you and others think of what this case says of reverse racism. It seems to me that the black community right now is completely ignoring the facts of the case (you can watch the whole thing on YouTube) and singling in on the profiling thing (no one knows for sure if Zimmerman did so and the character evidence in the trial suggests that GZ was not as racist as people have made him out to be). What if Trayvon was high (marijuana in his system, found in the autopsy)? What if his character suggests he might have been a thug? What if he did in fact pursue George and throw the first blow? These things and much more were discussed at length in the trial and the evidence suggests that though Zimmerman could have made wiser choices (not gotten out of his truck, for example), he didn’t do anything illegal. We don’t know all the answers to these questions, but just because a young man is black doesn’t mean that if he looks and acts like a thug he won’t be profiled as one. No one seems to acknowledge that this violent kid (with his father in Sanford because he was suspended for fighting, stealing, drug use, etc) made wrong decisions too. I want to see a post from a black man or woman that cries out for an end to the thuggery within in their community. I want us minorities to be about the business of teaching our young men and women to look more like Christ. Though my two young boys are a bit lighter-skinned than I am and may not have the same experiences that I did, I will tell them to keep smiling at people who clutch their bags and never forsake doing good. I don’t deny that racism exists, but it seems to me that it is flagrantly worse from blacks right now. The white hatred seethes with evil and ignorance. People are doing the very thing they hate. There is no peace, no forgiveness, ultimately no faith in God to right the wrongs in the world or to trust Him to redeem it all. Individuals jump on the opportunity to call someone a racist. Christians have got to hold up truth in all things. We can’t play the race game, we are about changing culturenot making a better “svart” culture orwhite” kultur, but holding up and exalting a Judeo-Christian culture that encourages things like love, peace, and forgiveness. Christians must see this case in light of the truth, and not participate in the war cries and witch hunt that is taking place right now. Pray for both families. Christ have mercy on us all. More of my thoughts on race & culture here: http://wp.me/p2C5Cy-VY I welcome visitors and feedback.

  19. Scott Lee SherwoodSvare

    As a fellow brother in Christ, I will first say that I know this is a complex issue that the church as a whole seems to get mired in all the time with no real resolution, even if thesolution” (Jesus) is right next to us. So I do want to show the love of God in my response to your blog, no matter what my convictions.

    In reading your blog, your point seemed to indicate that GZ should have been convicted of 2nd degree murder simply because heracially profiledTM. This is not how the judicial system works. You can’t ask a jury to give you amoralwin and mete out justice simply because the other guy doesn’t like the color of your skin. The facts are that GZ is not white despite what the media/NAACP/Celebrity Hollywood/and Rev Al would like you to believe. He is of a mixed ethnicity of Hispanic/Latino descent and grew up in a multicultural family. Han “profiledTM because of burglaries that had recently happened in the gated community. With a hoodie on and jeans, following someone from behind, you can’t tell what race/ethnicity they are. I coach football and wear hoodies all the time in the fall, and my own dog has barked at me coming into my house when I’ve had my hoodie on because she didn’t recognize me. You can’t walk into most banks or credit unions wearing a hoodie. They will stop and ask you to remove it. Same goes for hats and sunglasses in most financial institutions. Are theyracially profiling”? Selvfølgelig ikke, men det er “profilering”, and this isn’t wrong. We ALL do it to each other all the time. And yes, I have been followed by store security before, and I have been stopped by police and questioned before, and in every convenience store near most high schools, they won’t let students come in with backpacks and they limit the number of students in the store. I live in California and the city I live is multicultural. In most of the stores like my local Safeway and Walmart, the security or loss prevention teams have many minorities of black, asian, Hispanic ethnicities. If they suspect someone of possibly committing a crime, or fitting aprofile”, is it racism if they follow them around the store or keep an eye on them, or even stop them for questioning if they are both black..? I’ve seen it happen, so it’s a legitimate question.
    It seems to me that most of the folks that are upset with the verdict and are being the most vocal about it are ranting that somehow TM’s civil rights were violated. In today’s day and age, with rampant crime and disregard for human life, where words like HONOR and INTEGRITY are lost in a sea ofwhat’s in it for meand a rampant entitlement mentality, most of these folks couldn’t give you the proper definition ofcivil rights”. They line up behind jackwagons like Rev Al Sharpton, and the NAACP and exploit social ignorance from people like Rachel Jeantel and make her the poster child for their racism case. Egentlig? These are the folks picked to fight thecivil rightsracism battle for the black community? These are who you want to stand with? Please. I think Dr. Martin Luther King would weep if he saw what a circus folks like these have turned the racism and civil rights fight, into. The fact is that racism is not the main enemy anymore for black America. Not even close. Black on Black crime, birthed by the continual breakdown of the family unit, and catalyzed by a system that says that the gov’t owes you something, and will take care of you, is a good place to start, if you really want to hit the biggest giant the black community faces. i mellomtiden, there are some that focus on solutions and are tackling some of these mindsets. The folks at National Center for Public Policy Research and their Project 21 Initiative are folks that I will align myself with and support all day long.
    Ultimately, Christ’s love will win. It always does. And it will happen one heart at a time.
    Let me end by saying that I know that racism exists and happens everyday. But we are bigger than that. Every race or ethnicity that has experienced the vile bite of racism has been created by God to overcome and be bigger than that hatred. The great men and women of black American history primarily made their mark for generations by not letting racism consume them. They rose above the circumstances and prevailed anyway. They could have quit and used racism as an excuse, but they didn’t. That same perseverance and strength from God Almighty is there for any of us to tap into no matter what any of us face.
    Thanks for reading, and God Bless You..!!

  20. alan_dSvare

    Tur, I appreciate the educated, nonpartisan, Christian viewpoint of this post. Just to get it out there, I’m a 26yr old white grad student from AL living in OK. derimot, after graduating from Auburn 4 År siden, I went to live in the D.R. Congo for 2 år. Jeg innrømmer, growing up, before I was a Christian, I was as much of a racist as 85% of the suburban culture around me was. derimot, the new-heart that Christ has given me has changed that.
    The point is, while living in the Congo, literally everyone around me at any given time was black. I loved the people I lived around, worked around, and almost everyone I met. derimot, in that culture, there were still people I profiled. Young men walking in the market without anything to sell, or any interest in anything, for example. My pockets were cleared twice, though I was quick enough to grab the guys and get my nokia brick back. Også, the police were *generally* corrupt. I profiled them every time I saw anyone in uniform. I was stopped, arrested, or harassed more times than I can count by the police/soldiers, as were many of the locals that I knew. Does that make it racist for me to profile those types of people because they happened to be black? På samme måten, how is it racist when I move my wife to the other side of my body when walking past a white man that I think looks suspicious? Its the same concept, and I submit that it is not racism. My point is that profiling is a natural human instinct and *can be* racist, but it isn’t always.

  21. AdolfSvare

    If any person doesn’t want to be a criminal, perhaps they shouldn’t wear the uniform. I dag, nesten 70 years after world war 2. What would you think of someone wearing a nazi uniform? It’s just clothes right?

  22. gdoggydog05Svare

    også. i feel it is racist. to award or discipline based on race. and it is racist that if your a white journalist, som meg….you get fired if you say the wrong thing about race. but if your a black journalist you can say that more white kids must die, in order for America to understand racism (link at bottom). look, this is my point. i am only harping on these things, because i want christians to understand that there will always be race issues on both sides. i don’t think we should go the same route as the world and latch on to them. for every instance of racism against blacks, you can find some against other races. although i do understand that slavery was a horrid thing and my ancesters, truly, will never understand white my black brothers and sisters ancestors have gone through.we should not cater to any race to try toequalize” tingene. proof in point is that the one true God would never do this!!! Would God almighty hand out scholarships based on race??? NEVER NEVER NEVER. Maybe based on income. But God would never show favor based on race. Israel was chosen, not because of anything in them, but God’s good purposes only. Min “old friendsresent this, and it only increases their racist thoughts. “Handouts” og “double standardsanger them. And the argument that sort-of saysi just cant understand the struggleis deeply hurtful to me. it says that i can only go so far with my black brothersi’ll never really be their brother though, cause I don’t understand what its like to be them. It says that the experiences of the black man divide us, more than Christ unites us. That is what I see this article unintentionally saying. I actually do know what it is like to be profiled. I was a kid once. We all go through tough times. You may not know what its like to have a mom with cancer, som meg. Or you may not know what it was like to be sent to home for bad kids when i was 12 år gammel, neglected by my white, affluent, suburban family and left to wonder why they didn’t love me. Let’s not start keeping score here. This totally is a warped improper perspective to focus on those unique experiences. Let us come together and rejoice that we have been given grace when we deserved death.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nRv2UVDOg0

    • Alex EricssonSvare

      I HIGHLY DOUBT that Trip is seeking to alienate brothers and sisters on the basis of race. He’s a black man in a predominantly white church for which he has often and without pause expressed gratefulness. But there are elements of being black in America that are unique and thoroughly incongruent with other cultural experiences!

      So PLEASE, I beg of you all, understand the difference between genuine empathy and meaningful sympathy. As we walk with our brothers and sisters in Christ, we will have few opportunities to counsel from a place empathy borne of shared experience but we will often be called to the patient, loving work of meaningful sympathy. That is where we listen to the hardships people have experienced, never minimizing the validity of his or her suffering by offering counter-examples to trump their experience, and frequently assuming that our counsel, though it may serve the individual, will not be an immediate panacea to assuage their pain, frustration, or even anger.

      Regardless of any flawed perspectives on this case or race, too many of
      us in the church (esp. via social media) wax eloquent on the things of the world but end up
      sounding more like Job’s insensitive friends. Now is a time when people are confused and very upset. People of ALL colors are displeased with the outcome of this case. Most of them need patience and genuine comfort. Not a lecture on the legal system orcorrupt media”, not bait-and-switch examples, nor disdainful political punditry. Point them to Jesus like you with gentleness.

  23. Dinah RobinsonSvare

    When I was a young girl, about elementary aged, I was racially profiled in what was then Eckerd Drug Store (now CVS). I didn’t know at that age what was happening to me, but I knew as a child it wasn’t right. I was with my mom and I had earned $20. I thought I was rich. I wanted to buy some candy and other things in the store. But one of the sales clerks saw me walking the aisle alone and she assumed that I was going to steal or do something wrong I guess. She followed me all around the store. It felt annoying to have this lady follow me. I finally found my mom on one of the aisles and told her I didn’t feel like shopping anymore. I told her when we left the store what happened and she said the lady probably thought I was going to steal. It made me sad that she thought a little girl looked like a thief. Fast forward to being a grown woman and the same thing happening to me as an adult in a nice store. I was naive to think that kind of thing shouldn’t happen these days. But unfortunately, racism is not dead. Neither is intolerance for the differences of others whether people are Americans or immigrants, gay or straight, fat or skinny, educated or under-educated, rich or poor. Instead of celebrating our differences we are justtoleratingeach other. We all bear some prejudices and I know personally I need to work on loving my neighbor as I love myself. You may not be able to change someone’s
    prejudices, but you can change your attitude about how you deal with those who
    pre-judgeyou and how you respond to it. I have a son who is black
    and Dominican. I want him to grow up having respect for all cultures whether he
    chooses to identify himself as African American or Hispanic or both. He will be taught
    to speak English and Spanish. He will be taught the history of both cultures.
    And most importantly he will be taught to love God and to love people. I believe it begins at home and what we live is what we learn and sadly what is reflected outside in our world.

    • Troy FrasierSvare

      Mam, I am white, and I have experienced the same thing both as a child and as an adult…. I don’t know that those instances were race related. Faktisk, haha, many times clerks followed me around as a kid, teenager, etc. Even now I am sure cameras follow me when I walk into a Wal-Mart, as my friend who works LP says I walk like a thief it seems…. Uansett, . Det skjer! :)

  24. Nathanial PolingSvare

    I side with Charles Barkley and Bill Cosby on this onethe media blew a sad story into a national rioting mess. I hope Zimmerman moves forward with the slander lawsuits on NBC and ABC.

  25. George LewisSvare

    in all of the discussion we need to have the law itself nullified. Please support my effort @ moveon.org . A petition The Trayvon Mandate can be found there. WE NEED AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT Please sign , send circulate , retweet and ask all of your friends , family and contact to do the same. Without a change in this bad law this situation can happen again.

  26. TiaSvare

    “Slike forutsetninger er kvalmt og falske. Gud skapte alle mennesker i sitt bilde med verdi og verdt. Likevel oss alle er syndige og ikke klarer å vise Guds bilde som vi burde. Hver eneste en av oss kan slå fra våre synder, tillit Kristus, og gjøres rett ved vår Skaper. Men rasisme hakker og velger hvilke mennesker i disse sannhetene skal brukes til. rasisme sier, "Jeg er verdifull og god, og alle disse menneskene er onde.” – Word Up Brother Lee!

    When the Kingdom takes the blinders off to the role of systemic oppression in American Christianity, especially in the form of White Supremacy, capitalism and patriarchy, we will break from the chains of bondage. These are the principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places the Word speaks of.

  27. Mr. 116Svare

    A black woman shot warning shots in Florida because she was scared that her abusive husband would attack her. You know what happened, she was sentenced to prison for 20 år.

    George Zimmerman shoots a young black kid in Florida, and he was found innocent?!? Egentlig?? Racism, most definitely, was an issue in this case. Tenk på det.

  28. lewritesSvare

    I am white/native American, and though the Native in me is a very small percentage, my skin tone is very dark and I look very much like a Native. I’ve been discriminated against by whites, by blacks, and by just about every race you can think of.

    DC Talk’s song Colored People sums up my thoughts quite nicely:
    We’re colored people and we live in a tainted place
    We’re colored people and they call us the human race
    We’ve got a history so full of mistakes
    And we are colored people who depend on a Holy grace.
    The media is very much to blame. But our own predispositions, our own actions perpetuate what the media feeds to us. If we would look past color, if we would see in ourselves the judgments we pass on others based on looks or actions, when we don’t even know themmaybe we could work to tear down these barriers and not give the media any more fodder.

  29. Joanette D. ClemonsSvare

    This case is not only about the SYG law it is also about the self defense argument. The child was in essence found guilty. This case is also about how the law views the responsibility of the person, GZ, who put themselves in harms way. Where does personal responsibility, common sense and self control play a part in this situation? When Rachel Jenteal (not sure of the spelling) was interviewed, she saidYour parents teach you that when someone suspicious is following you, you should run. No parent teaches their child to stand their. Hvis de gjorde, they would have no child.TM was a child. He was described to police by GZ as a person in their late teens. This is not conjecture, this is fact. Trayvon was a child growing into adulthood. When GZ called police, he did the right thing, when he decided to go against the will of authority, he lost control and the situation turned out all wrong. Spiritual ex.: How many times have we prayed and asked God to help us handle a situation and we lean to our own understanding rather than listening to the true voice of authority to see us through. Trayvon is not here b/c GZ leaned to his own understanding. He took matters into his own hands after being given clear and concise instructions about what NOT to do. I wanted to know what GZ’s role as a volunteer neighborhood watch officer consisted of. I found this book at http://www.usaonwatch.org/assets/publications/0_NW_Manual_1210.pdf Please read page 27 of Chapter 6. This man overstepped his bounds and ran right OUT OF personal responsibility into trouble. He disobeyed direct instructions and confronted a frightened child, who was a young man and an athlete. He bit off more than he could chew when he stepped outside the will and instructions of authority. Suppose TM had been an experienced killer who took GZ’s gun and killed him instead? This tragic incident opened the door for a number of topics to be discussed. Including, but not limited to, profilering, personal responsibility, The Stand Your Ground Law, what is the real definition of self defense, and most of all the re-evaluation how race should be viewed the minds of everyone. Everything seen in the darkness of our own hearts and minds will eventually come to light. This tragic and ridiculous chain of errors is meant to bring about a greater level of understanding, dialogue and awareness. This case has sent shock waves throughout the world. It is not an American history story, it is not Black history story, it is a human and civil rights story. No one deserves to die based upon stereotypical perceptions and a lack of self control.

  30. BQPhotographySvare

    DUDE!! Thank you so much for posting this!! I posted something similar on my facebook wall. I feel we can move on from racism but yet we can still talk about it to fix the problem!! Not argue and continue to profile any race. I am a firm believer in God and this country must turn back to God. (2 Chronicles 7:14) We need more black people like you and I, who can step up and speak against the racism and educate one another. We should stand against the people who stir the racism up!! Thanks again. I too have dealt with racial comments and actions by others, but I don’t let all of it get to me because I know who I am in Christ!! Takk!!

  31. merkeSvare

    uten spørsmål, there are those with ‘racialmotivations for what they dopositive or negative. Some assume the worst just because of the level of melanin. But I wonder if there’s something else going on in situations like this that reveals more of a cultural gap than a racial one. For eksempel, if I see a woman walking down the street in very short shorts, low cut tank-top with breasts hanging out, lots of make-up, high heels (not good for walking), etc., I will assume this is a woman who isto use an antiquated wordloose. This gives me zero right to physically or verbally assault her, to make suggestive remarks, etc. Contrast that with another woman’s attiremodest, but attractive pants, skirt, dress, etc. – right out of the LandsEnd (or pick your style) catalog. She COULD be just as loose as woman #1, but I think it’s unlikely.

    Likewise, if I see a young black man walking toward me dressed as a ‘gangbanger’ – I move aside and get nervous. It’s POSSIBLE he’s a local youth pastor and would share the Gospel with me sooner than say a hurtful word. But what’s with the ‘banger attire? Motsatt, a black man walking down the street in 1) Lands End attire 2) traditional African garb 3) work jeans/boots with white t-shirtI suddenly have all of my fears mitigated.

    My point is that attire is a form of cultural expression. And not all cultures are equal. If whatwhite” (or light brown, red, yellow) America sees in music videos, the evening news, newsweeklies, etc. of the young black man in trouble is what young black men who are upstanding members of the community wearthat will communicate a conflicting message.
    Imagine me wearing a t-shirt with a confederate flag on it and expecting blacks to just understand that I’m not a racist. I just love the Confederate South.

    Likewise, dress like a gangster, don’t be surprised when you’re confused with one.

    Wearing a ‘hoodiealone wouldn’t/shouldn’t do this of course. But folks who think they’re clothing/attire doesn’t communicate or (worse) will admit it does, but places the burden on the observer to flesh all the differences out is a fool.

  32. James LeeSvare

    High profile cases like this sensationalize and underlying problem between what we faultfully callraces.

    As a white boy from suburbs of Detroit, I would probably respond the same way to Zimmerman following me, regardless of the activities I was up to.

    Zimmermans spiritual state impacts his view of the Lords command to …”Not resist an evil man.Likely, Trayvon Martin’s adherence to this command was lacking as well. As disciples of Christ, we should remember to not be surprised when the world acts likethe world.

    Our best weapon against social injustices and racial divides is to adhere to the commands of Christ.

    Thabiti Anyabwile gave a timely message in 2008 aboutBearing the Image”. It is worth a listenhttp://t4g.org/media/2010/04/bearing-the-image-identity-the-work-of-christ-and-the-church-session-ii/

    The majority of people have identities and lives that have been based on assumption regarding the notion of “race.” We need to change toward a more biblical theology of ethnicity. Først av alt, it is important to define terms and use them properly, especially “race” versus “ethnicity.” The Christian needs to understand man’s unity in Adam, union with Christ and unity in the church.

  33. RustySvare

    We’ve ALL been on the receiving end of racism, probably. Hvis ikke, we will. Someone from some other race is going to make a decision about us, based on how we look or sound.

    We’ve all been guilty of committing it, også, to some small degree. Any time you see someone and make a judgmenteven if it’s kept internalbased on how that person looks or soundsthat’s prejudice.

  34. Antha REdNOTESvare

    The 911 operator saidWe don’t need you to follow himThat’s enough for me. The trial would’ve never been needed and Trayvon would probably be getting more kisses from his Dad (as seen in pictures) if Zimmerman stayed hisbuttin the car AND on the phone tilthe cops came!!!

  35. LouieSvare

    Frankly, I am ashamed that some of these commentators call themselves Christian, I almost hope that some of them are not. Thank you so much Trip for putting your heart on this blog, apart of yourself and your life experiences that we do not know about or may not understand. I am a White, Male and 24 years of age and I have many black friends, very similar to Trip, who have been profiled wrongly and I have been in the presence of these attacks against my friends, in shock, feeling helpless. I think some of the commentators are sorely misinterpreting Trip’s words or using them as a sounding board for their personal agendas and politics. Trip hasn’t said anything about Zimmerman being a racist. Zimmerman made a wrong judgment that cost a young man his life, a fact that has changed one family forever, at least Zimmerman lives and breathes. And this event has triggered an outcry that forces everyone to examine their biases and to look at laws that are hurting us all. It makes me sick that people cannot simply see that the laws created to protect some like myself (with unearned privileges) do not apply to those who are viewed as theother”. Some have mentioned the law and say Zimmerman was justified to follow Trayvon but was he justified in God’s eyes to follow someone because he looked suspicious. In the end I pray Zimmerman comes to know Christ as his personal savior and turn his horrible choice into something positive that God can use to bring further healing. Nothing is impossible with God.

    • Nathanial PolingSvare

      How do you know Zimmerman wasn’t a Christian already? Did you watch the trial or listen to the soundbites. I think you make a lot of judgmental comments in this post about people’s Christianity. I know young white teenagers who have been profiled as well because they had tattoos. Stop making assumptions that this was a race case and assumptions about others hearts. Zimmerman could have had bad intentions but nothing led there in the trial when people got to hear the full phone calls, not the spliced ones that the media played to drum up a racial issue. Zimmerman faced a jury and was acquitted under self-defense. Maybe some people should start to question the music that African Americans listen to that promote violence over peace. Martin could have went back to the house, instead he chose to try to beat up Zimmerman.

  36. dismayedSvare

    hello all. First and farmost I am a christian. Secondly I am an afirican-american woman. I’ve read the comments here and they do not surprise me. I am horrified by the violence in this country (the black on black, the judicial towards blacks,the crime element of minority youths of towards the general public, general public towards minoriity youths). To tell you the truth I am scared,and this is why……….when we as a society gloss over the societal stains racism has caused we are in grave danger of returning our society back to that in which it was in the 50’s. Dessuten, when we think for a second that America has reached some state of a race free utopia we are in grave danger of repeating the same ill that plagued the nation 50 År siden. I think people like to gloss it over because it’s easier than facing it and confronting it. So for you it might not be a race thing, because you will never have to hear your elders discuss how the details reminds the days of their youth,experiencing things you and i could never dream of

    .For you it might not be a race thing because you will never bear inside your body a black male child and wonder will he live to see 21. For you it might not be a race thing because the mere look of you is and will never be seen as a threat. If i had those options it would not be race thing for me either. My heart goes out to all those who have been victims of crime due to violence. I never will and never have condoned violence. derimot, also will never condone a system that condones shooting somebody based on appearances,or possible reasons why they are out at night,. I will never condone a system that will take my money is accepted,but I or my son is not. I will never condone the state of things as they are. America is no utopia. I feel the effects of being a minority in America everyday,and even in the church.

    • bergymanSvare

      I’m a Christian too. I agree that racism still exists. Sannheten er, it will always exist. The enemy will make sure of that. But thisyou will never understand my sideposturing doesn’t help. We have white idiots that perpetuate racism. And that is what they are: stupid racists. Then there are black idiots that perpetuate the stereotype that promotes the profiling. The focus should be all of the rest of us rising above these idiots and coming together and repair the divide. Change the narrative. As for young black males… wow. I have no idea how a community deals with that, but I know there are answers out there. I know God has a plan and a solutionand it isn’t division based on how someone looks. His solution is about UNITY, love and restoration.

      • dismayedSvare

        hi bergyman. I respect and agree with, your views. One note though- my view is notyou will never understand my siderather its a shedding of light on the why this not aboutmy sideor your side. This is about the in-just patterns this country has yet to rectify.This is the lot that America has given to minorities. elders reliving horrifying experiences with jim crow. Children afraid they will be targeted by some crooked form of the judicial system. Male family members harassed for DWB'(driving while black) I have worked tirelessly for many years unifying folks and bringing racial awareness to the church and to the un-churched alike. I’m not saying understand my side .I’m saying respect it. I WILL continue my work to shed light on the subject,because that’s what GOD intended me to do and the church needs it. With that said- turning a blind eye to the ills of injustice be it racial,social economical,regarding abortion or sex trafficing,is also very wrong. It’s also something I can not do. On a brighter note I have seen ,confession, and forgiveness between races on a massive scale at Christians prayer events and it was beautiful time of respect, confession,tilgivelse (on both sides) OHHH was that something to behold it was like pslms 133:1-3 in real time. Feet were washed,tears were shed, and all parties(svart,white,latino,and asian) repented before GOD for ought against the other. I long for the day whenbrother love will bind man to manas mentioned in the great hymn ode to joy. I work and pray to no end to see it happen.

        • bergymanSvare

          Thank you for your reply. I didn’t mean to imply you were doing theyou don’t understand…” thing, I just meant I don’t want that response being the answer. I hear that a great deal when I’ve tried to join in the conversation regarding some of these problems and how we as a society can overcome them. I think there HAS to be understanding and solutions and change on both sides. I agree with you. It is happening. I just hate how long it’s taking and all the harmed/lost lives and lost potentialand I HATE the division. Thank you for fighting the good fight. I hope you know that I don’t pretend to understand the emotions, I am just looking to getting ways to the next stepsrecovery, healing, enhet.

        • dismayedSvare

          ja. i understand and we need you in the fight . I’m sorry that some one devalued your contribution to the conversation and/ or solution to these problems. and I apologize on their behalf.Would you forgive all of us who treated those who want to help find a better way as if they don’t matter in this discussion just because his or her skin wasn’t black. I believe we each have something to contribute to the other person ,experiences to be gained,love to be shared,encouragement and fellowship to be had (svart,white,yellow,brown,blue etc). i firmly believe that. God bless you bergyman…..one day pslms 133:1-3 will be a reality if not here on the earth ,definitely in the one to come.

        • bergymanSvare

          Amen, Amen. Thank you for your kind words. Lord, continue the healing that will indeed someday command a blessing.

  37. Troy FrasierSvare

    Hei Trip, Love ya and all, but honestlyit sounds like on the issue of race, you have some bitterness. I am sorry your skin color has made you the receiving end of some discrimination. My skin color has leaved me on the receiving end of some discrimination from the black community, (although I have never been tagged by the police). Its a part of life, mann. I just wish I were discriminated for the cross, not for the color of my skin in those instances. Det skjer, it’s not beautiful, but we have to forgive those who do it and praise God the father for His love and diversity. And not be bitter, mann. Let go of those past instances. Just like you shouldn’t treat others wrongly, you must forgive and free yourself from the temptation of victimization when you are judged. Everyone is judged. If not by skin color, by body shape, location, alder, etc. I have been judged countless times for being from Florida in the midwest. And for being young. Etc. We will always be judged, ya know? We must forgive and show love to those who are ignorant. :) God bless ya, Tur!

    • NicoleSvare

      By pointing out that racism exists against black people does not nullify that black people can discriminate too. We live in a fallen world and all those actions are wrong. Working to open dialogue does not mean that unforgiveness exists. (Hello, Trip Lee’s wife is not black lol) derimot, biblically, peace does not equal passive. There are MANY calls in the Word of God to be active about injustice and oppression in all forms. We should be active against social justice, ALL FORMS with the ultimate goal of showing the beautiful contrast of Jesus Christ in this fallen world.

  38. bergymanSvare

    We’re asking people to be superhuman. We all use information (some based on our own situations, some third party reliable, and some third party unreliable) to tell us what to do in certain parts of town, and around people that look a certain way. We all profile. The blonde girl Lizzi below may have had people view her as stupid or easy based on how she looks. Fair? Probably not. She has a choice, she can either try to convince all the other blondes out there to act smart, be smart to not perpetuate the stereotype OR she can just try and do her best to not be linked with thetype”. My guess (and I could be way off) is that the store owner commonly was shoplifted by people that looked/acted like Dinah Robinsonfair? Ikke i det hele tatt. But is it the store owner who is acting irresponsibly? Let me say it this wayif person #1 looks/dresses/acts like people who have committed crimes in their store or in their neighborhood. (I’m making up hypotheticals here) The objective statistics say: 7 out of 10 times when this happens, a crime is committed. You may say, they still shouldn’t profile. but at what point in the statistics do you say, I’m still going to think the best of this person. 9 out of 10? how about 99/100? How about 999/1000? What if you have an Arab family in your neighborhood and you see him unloading dozens of bags of fertilizer into his garage? Maybe he just likes his grass to be really green. Are we supposed to always assume the best in people?

    My view on this is that we have a racially divided and politically divided and economically divided country. We can’t really do much about the economicshistory always tells us that we have rich and poor. But politically and racially we can say “Nei”. I have no problem with having pockets of people banding together in America because of interests or because they come from the same country and they share traditions of that country. But I think this is what happens when we have a bunch of people who have banded together (probably because of outside and inside factors) because of how they look on the outside, I think we will continue to have problems untilblack peopleexist in all parts of a city, vote both sides of the aisle politically, work in all different industries, don’t require/get special hiring/voting laws, go to college at the same rates, and marry people not based on skin color. The media wants an emotional issue. The parties want an emotional issue (to spur a strong voter turnout). The challenge is do we allow them to play usthis isn’t an US versus THEM argument. This is awe need to all play together”. This is awe need to accept that there are idiots out there that will assume we are who they think we are, but I’m going to ignore them because I know who I am.

    We had black foster kids (7 og 9 år gammel). The 7 yr old girl told usEveryone knows that white people hate black people and that black people hate white people.That made me sad. Someone taught her that with words. At 7 år gammel, that become part of her makeup. We need to stop following the media/politic rhetoric and try and build bridges and not jump to conclusions about people and when people make conclusions about us, we need to let it fall off our backs because holding grudges only increases the racial divide and we need this rift repaired.

  39. RumplestiltskinSvare

    A very highly-charged trial, and not w/o reason. Our present dealings, med “whateverwill always be tainted with our disagreeable past. I had parents, that apparenty werecolor blind”, and for this I am thankful. When I was about three, and playing with my neighborhood friends one day in the sandbox, this is what I sawone by one, a parent would come up, and say something likecome on Johnny, we’ve got to go” eller, “suzie, time for your nap”. One by one, they all left, except one. I didn’t think anything about it that day, but some thirty or forty years later, I realized what happened: that last little boy was black. I tell you, when I realized exactly WHAT happened that day, I was shocked, and angrythat boy that the other kids were beingprotectedfrom was my friend. I did not know what “svart” was. Still amazing.
    Nå, jeg er 71, and have had a one-on-one relationship with Jesus Christ, for 37 år. THAT, more than any discussion of “løp” has really opened my eyes, let me explainin the book of Ephesians, it says that God, made of the Jews, and also of the gentiles, ONE NEW MAN. Folks, this means you, and me, as long as we have that relationship with Christ. When we STEP INTO CHRIST, weput on”, eller “come intothe ONE NEW MAN. Så. OUTSIDE of Christ, we can put on an act, we can try to be good, do the right thing, etc. But out natural strength will always run out, and we WILL fail again, anytime we areoutside of Christ”, or not under His influence. Make sense?
    Outside of Christ, there IS NO LASTING UNITYotherwise we would have had that, long ago. Så, come into Christ, where I am no longer white, I’m your brother, and I’ve got your back.

  40. MollieSvare

    I agree that racism is an issue. But saying that it is only against the african americans is wrong. I have been profiled many many times in my life. I am a young white girl.I have blonde curly hair and blue eyes and a southern accent. I have been cuffed by the cops because they were looking for a suspect. I have had a gun held to my head by someone intending to kill me. I have gone completely without. I have had black friends quit speaking to me because I am white andcan’t possible understand”. We all have the same struggles. We all face the fact that very few people are going to try to get to know us before they judge us. My husband and I have five children of our own and recently adopted two of his cousins who happen to be black. I can honestly tell you that as much as we have been to the store as a family no black people have ever even remotely been kind to us or truly acknowledged us until we adopted these two boys. As if the level of pigmentation they have in their skin makes them different from us. We are all equal are we not? Then why is this still a white vs black thing? Why is it simply not a community of all people coming together and acknowledging that it is at it’s core a heart problem and not a race problem? When my girls grow up and begin to look for their husbands I will not care if that man is black or white or chinese. I will only ask two things, does he love the Lord with all of his heart, and does he have Jesus in his heart. If the answer to these two things are yes then I will know he will be good to my girls. They same will go for my sons when they look for a wife. To make everything a race issue is dangerous no matter what side is doing it. Let us just rise above and call it what it is….a heart problem.

  41. LolaMitche2011Svare

    Having a multi-racial family I completely understand many different perspectives. I will say thatwhiteAmerica will just simply never understand thecoloredperspective. How could they? People will show more sympathy with people they can relate to. Blacks can name 100 different cases of racism in their own lives, while whites will also name 100 different situations and justifications for why they believe what they believe. With more whites numerically in jail than any race, and more blacks percentage wise in jail then whites, it’s obvious crimes can be done by anyone. We all just see what we want to see. With that being said, I would say we all need to just strive to do the best for our communities and pull them up. Black Americans should now know that they cannot expect a sympathetic ear from whites, and Whites should know that that they will never understand the experiences people of color go through. And honestly that’s okay.

    • DaveSvare

      Lola, I think to useblacks” & “hvitt” as you have in this post in such broad terms is very much overstated. African Americans are not the enemy of Caucasians. Caucasians are not the enemy of African Americans. Individuals with sin in their hearts wrongfully judge one another. It plays itself out in between all different kinds of nationalities because of the pride of individuals who choose to flesh that pride out through their skin color. I see it between neighboring Asian countries here in Thailand as well. It’s surely not limited to African Americans & Caucasians. Please don’t let the ways you’ve been hurt add to the lack of reconciliation in this matter. Change can really happen.
      Christ died to save sinners. And that is where the change starts when it comes to these things you mentioned. Individuals getting their old selves crucified & given new lenses to see the world. It will happen from person to person as they get their prideful, narrow worldview rocked by Christ’s Kingdom way.
      Christ bless you, Lola.

  42. KSStrongSvare

    @gdoggydog05 wrote “all my black christian
    brothers focus on martin, and don’t even acknowledge the fact that it is wrong in the first place to choose this trajedy as more important those the hundreds of similar trajedys that occur daily.”- You are assuming that AA Christians
    view this tragedy above all the others. The fact is that this case has been in the news, and therefore, it will naturally be a topic of conversation more so than other things that people are unaware of. The apostle Paul chose, at one time, to highlight the sin of Herod (marrying his brother’s wife) over all the other sin that was occurring at that time. He specifically called Herod out.
    While we know that Paul did not hesitate to call people out on their sin or hypocrisy, we read only of a few times of him calling out certain names. Is this sin? Nei, he called Herod out because of his status and position. He called Peter out (av
    name) because of his leadership in the early church. It is not sin to point to this case and discuss racism. This case has had a dominate status in the media, and so people talk about it.

    • gdoggydog05Svare

      im sorry ksi should have been more clear. i’m not assuming…. i’m speaking on all the black christians that i know or have read, etc….. and i didn’t mean that they are prioritizing it more…. what i meant is this: of all the comments black christians have made, i have not seen any that criticize the media for putting a certain case on a pedastool on the basis of race…. sorry about that. I don’t know if they do or not. I think the media is guilty of this and am surprised that my black brothers and sisters have commented on other parts of the case and seemingly supported the media in their display, rather than dissent, even if only with their words.

  43. Steve BurlewSvare

    Takk, Tur. Seriously. Been a long time since we’ve been together or communicated. I hope you and yours are doing well.
    Grace and peace to you, bror.
    Steve Burlew

  44. Heather Mahnke WorrellSvare

    Dear T.L.,

    I am a 32 year old white female. I was just explaining Trayvon’s story to my 12 year old daughter. I explained how I feel about all of it. I read your blog above. I respect you, and I also feel that this issue needs to be discussed. I look at it like my marriage, in a wayIf my husband and I have a conflict, we work it out until we have an understanding. We are two separate bodies, but by marriage we are one (my husband and I), just as all of us are put into categories, whether we like it or not. I teach my children that color doesn’t matter, character is what matters, but nonetheless I am white, you are black and we can’t change that. It is a fact about ourselves, just like right now I am wearing a red shirt and if maybe all people wore red shirts everyday, we could get passed all of this, be treated equal by each other, and all be calledred shirt people”, but that’s not going to happen. We all need to come to an understanding about each other like in my marriage. Conflicts need to be fixed, “Don’t go to bed angry”. Our races have been in conflict for too long. We’ve never really come to an understanding, or have learned to respect each other fullynow our bottles of emotion have hit their pressure limits and we’re exploding with irrationality. Our races have never really married each other, so to speak. It’s time to get marriedYou explained in your blog why you have been emotionally invested in the Trayvon Martin Case. That this is the story about you, your father, your grandfather, that you have been racially profiled. Let me tell you that, as a white woman, I treat every stranger with caution regardless of their skin color. I lock my doors, clench my purse, and children tighter no matter who I walk past on the street. There are dangerous white rapist, serial killers, kidnapping, etc. crime happening everywhere just as much as there are in any other skin color there isI want to help change hearts and minds. Just because someone is profiled, doesn’t make it racist. It is because there are sick evil monsters in every color and we have to be cautious. Så, if we lived in a safe happy world where everyone was kind and loving, we would not have to worry I guess, but this isn’t Heaven. God Bless you, T.L. Love and Peace be with you.

  45. Christopher ZavalaSvare

    I think the whole Zimmerman/Martin thing has shown me that it is pretty easy for me to judge and just assume that certain people are justplaying the race card.

    But I respect Trip. And I want to take his words to heart and try to sympathize with the perspectives and experiences of others. I pray that God will expand my view and my compassion. And I pray that the power of the Gospel will unite the Church and help all of us to find our identities in Christ and not color or class or country

  46. TJSvare

    You’re assuming it was based on color. Did you forget there had been young black males breaking into homes where zimm lived? This had nothing to do with color just for the sake of it.

  47. laura merroneSvare

    Ja, lets move on and get all of this behind us. Whatever happened that day, can you forgive and forget? Can we alllove our enemyas a Christian whoever that may be? Can we honestly sayvengeance is the Lord’snot ours? I am a white woman but have been through some bad experiences myself but I’ve gotten over it by forgiving all parties involved. Our nation needs healing not more tears. The more we forgive, the better off we will be and the racism feelings will fade. Nå, if only Al Sharpton and the news media will quit bringing up all this stuff and opening the wounds, we will be all right

  48. SophiaSvare

    Wow! It is so refreshing to hear Kingdom perspective on this issue. We get so wrapped up in arguing with each other, that we forget to ask God what He thinks. We forget that the answers are already in His word. We forget that we should trust in no one and nothing but Him. Finally, we forget that those who seek Him, will be those who find the truth.

    Racism is truly an issue in this country. It’s something that we cannot run from, but that we must face and change. We have to know that we cannot change without Jesus Christ. Racism is a reality that is reflected in our justice system, in how we think about each other, and in how we treat each other. Until the hatred is removed from our hearts, racism will continue to creep into our decisions. The past will be the past, when it is no longer present in our future. Until then, we certainly should not move on.

  49. Karla WillowsSvare

    Amen Trip. I am half Colombian, half English, it’s so easy for me as I am white, I had a friend for a while who was a neo natzi from Ireland. He did not realize I was half Colombian for a long time. When I realized his beliefs, I told him I was half Colombian, he refused to believe me. Had I had darker skin, he would never have become my friend in the first place. He remained friends with me. I hope God used this to change his perspective, we have since lost touch through day to day life, but not because of skin color. I can’t imagine how painful and damaging it is to be continually judged by the color of your skin. My Son loves 116. He is only four and has no idea of racism yet. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being great role models to both my sons. As far as my four year old is concerned, guys who look like rappers love Jesus and are safe :)

  50. KaySvare

    The more I read and hear about the Trayvon Martin case. The more I realize that most can not look at it from a realistic/factual point of view. We often look at these cases through a skewed lens that carries baggage from own past. I speak as a woman whose great-grandfather was an illegal immigrant from Mexico, and yet has been challenged by Christ to embrace The Truth, not the truth as “Jeg” see it. Christ asks that we set aside our identity including our ethnicity, sex, denominational affiliation, etc (Galaterne 3:28), in order to see our world through the lens of Christwhich embodies all truth.

    Trayvon Martin, according to his friend Rachel Jeantel racially profiled George Zimmerman calling him aCreepy a** cracke,.” and then proceeded to brutally assault GZ. Understand, I am in no way defending Zimmerman because he took the law into his own hands, which ended in the death of Martin. My problem with this case, has been the pass that is often given to minorities for racist comments and behaviors. The truth in this case is that both men were out of line in their behavior toward one another, and yet TM gets a pass because he is a man of color. I am sorry but God does not honor that mentality, because it is one that is twisted and perverted.

    BOTH MEN were equally wrong in how they responded to each other, and yet we care little about ALL the facts. We just care about the facts that best support the way we want to think.

    I am finding racism is a real problem in our culture, but the reality is it is not just a white problem, it is just as prevalent in people of color as well. Racism, will never end as long as we are concerned only about ourown” mennesker. I truly believe this is the message Martin Luther King Jr. preached, before it was tarnished by the likes of Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson. Unity and oneness can only happen when men and women truly see through the lens of Christ, because as Galatians 3:28 points out we are ALL ONEIN” Kristus. I personally believe anytime we chose to view ourselves outside of that framework, than we either knowingly or unknowingly erect barriers and dividers. Bottom line Christians, racism can stop with you, as long as you truly embrace Christ’s perspective. Noe annet, you are left with justifying a false reality that continues to erect barriers between you and others.

    We need to ask ourselves do want the Truth, or are we only interested in seeing through our distorted lens, where truth is relative, and is only accepted if it fits into our framework?

  51. LaRoneSvare

    Brothers and Sisters,

    What saddens me more than anything is how readingsomeof the comments posting on this wonderful website, I find it hard to see the difference between here, YouTube or any other site where folks just like to argue their points and dismiss grace and peace. Still, much better comments than usual. What Trip was trying to convey seems to have gotten lost in most of the comments.

    As far as the killing of Trayvon, just notice how its almost never a person of color, especially black, that comes to the defense of Zimmerman. NOw, everything doesn’t have to do with race, but the things that do should not be so easily disregarded. The black experience in America is so downplayed. Hvorfor? Should Blacks just get over the fact that their ancestors were property of men and women in this country? Should the fact that government propaganda literally called for the discrimination of them be forgotten? Should they forget that the Constitution literally stated that they are only 3/5 of a man? Of equal importance, should people who aren’t persons of color really act oblivious to these same facts of American history as if there are not still systems of oppression (not just profiling) that directly effect the black community and other minority groups? It is so easy to tell people to get over it or to point out Black success in an attempt to undermine race relations in this HISTORICALLY racist country. But when you are the benefactor of racism (even if unknowingly) and you are not affect by it negatively, you inevitably have a viewpoint different and sometimes even defensive when it comes to race. Thank the Lord that Christ unifies ALL people. But still, churches remain the most segregated places in America. Thank you all for reading and all be Blessed.

  52. thefollowerSvare

    I have read through this entire thing the comments, arguments, sympathy statements. It all amazes me your intelligence and personal experience about all these things. Like in the beginning Trip said don’t stop talking about it, derimot, I’m quite sure he didn’t mean argue.

    I am an 18 year old white girl, my best friend is an 18 year old black girl, i have no black relatives, my church is completely white, i have many black friends, and i worked at a camp for underprivileged children where more than half the campers are black….i have seen the way you all put up some facts about your life to make people understand you better so those are a few facts about my lifeI’ve learned about the racial issue and it disturbs me its even made me mad enough to break my hand from punching things when hearing about the struggles some people have gone through. its okay to get mad over things like murder, racism, lies, and hypocrisy, but it is definitely NOT okay to treat each other with the disrespect and ‘i know betterattitudes i have seen on here. I may not know a whole lot about the world and all of its struggles but i know a few things. I know that first of all God created all man equal and as friends of those treated with racism we can and should stick up for them. I also know that God is the Righteous Judge and many of you who argued on here said you were christianshame on youthis case has brought such a division and not not just between white/black/hispanic people between every person who thinks he/she knows better than everyone who doesn’t agree with them. We are children of God, the only one who really knows what happened the night Treyvon was killed, so who are we to argue who’s right or wrong?

    John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

    I’m not hear to tell you my opinion on the case and i’m not hear to judge you. I felt compelled to remind you that right or wrong we are called to love people and to let go of selfish pride over winning an argument that isn’t ours to win. John 8:7 came to mind within the first ten comments and stayed there until the end. If you’re going to argue do it in a loving way or, here’s a funny thought, if you know that you can’t argue in a way that is still respectful DON’T ARGUE! It’s not up to us to condemn or set free anyone and frankly its idiotic to act like it is. Thank you for taking a stand and sharing your opinions! Like I said I’m sure that you are all intelligent and enjoyable people but if we don’t show God’s love even through our opinions why in the world would people think christianity is worthwhile when we don’t act different from the rest of the world?

  53. ItoSvare

    We are believers, Bearers of the image of our Lord Jesus Christ, people who understand that we and ALL people are wicked, sinful, redeemed only by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ who took the wrath of the Father, because of our sin, on the cross for us. What do we have without truth? The TRUTH should be what governs this conversation, not opinion. Our history tells the story and provides the answers if we are willing to be honest.

    I won’t even provide my racial identity. Because it is irrelevant to this discussion. I am a lover of the Lord, and someone who studied law, justice, sociology, and law enforcement.

    Look at the facts and the stats. The American Justice system is far from colorblind. She badly reeks of the sins of oppression, partiality, and wickedness. Classism is just as much a cause of it as racism is. But to say racism does not exist, or did not play a part in the outcome of this case, is a mistake. It is an opinion that chooses to completely ignore the history of our justice system in favor of what it would like to be true.

    Racism exist. It is alive and well and active.
    Heldigvis, we serve a God who knows everything. Who is powerful to heal those who will let Him. Who is faithfulness to heal bitterness and resentment. And who has given us power through prayer and action.

    Disciple your children in truth. The truth is that their race will be part of their identity, (and determine how some people will view them) for as long as they live.

    Glory to God who looks not at what man does.

  54. PastorNormSvare

    The thing I believe that God wants us to do with this incident and all those other ones we continue to hear about is what Trip said. Pray for all parties involved to either get saved out of what has happened or get right if they are Christians. What everyone has missed is that God Almighty called Trayvon’s number for whatever reason He had. NOBODY was going to change that that night. God said, “Trayvon, it is over for youjust like he did for Tupac and many others. IF Trayvon was saved, glory to God he is now with Jesus. Hvis ikke, sadly he is burning in Hell. Huske, Eccl. 12:13 ” Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

  55. muchneededmoderatorSvare

    I entered this website, read the various blogs posted and was encouraged by various posts until I came to this one. The comment thread that ensued below was both disturbing and heart wrenching. Instead of reading calm, patient, wise and God centered comments, I suddenly found myself engulfed in a frenzy of racism and hatred. And all this by supposed Christians who seem to think it’s appropriate to tell each other who is or is not a Christians and whether or not their prayers will reach the ears of God or as Marvin put it: “…your prayers probably won’t make it past your ceiling.Many of you say repeatedly that you are not on the attack and do not wish to offend anyone, that you simply have your own opinions and that yes, they are strong. Fine, we all have our own opinions and we all feel strongly on certain issues whether or not we find others who agree. That is a right and a freedom we have as Americans to enjoy and I hope it is never taken from us. But to constantly bash another brother or sister in Christ and to preach at each other as if you yourselves know best is pure hypocrisy. We as Christians should know better than anyone that we are simply human, we make mistakes, we act in arrogant pride, we are blinded to certain issues simply by our own sin and no matter how hard we try, those blinders will always be there because we are fallen, sinful, humans. It is for that reason that God is our judge. It is not our opinions that matter, but God’s and God’s alone. To act towards each other so hatefully and yet call yourselves “brødrene” is pathetic at best.
    Marvin, to be honest I had to stop reading about half way down the posts simply because I couldn’t stomach the way you continued to treat yourbrothers and sistersall the while sticking to your guns, becoming more and more inflamed and then claiming that you weren’t upset. Read your own posts, Herr. Whether I agree with you or not does not matter, what matters is how you treat your brother. Read through the posts, you were by far (at least until I stopped reading about halfway down) the most volatile person on this thread. You tell others they have no right to tell you how to pray and then you suggest that God does not even hear their prayers. Who are you to suggest such a thing? You are not God. Come down off your throne and then speak to your brothers in love instead of impatience and anger.
    Racism is ugly and I see it everywhere and constantly. I hate it for so many different reasons and on so many different levels. But there will be no healing this disease until ALL sides recognize that there is racism no matter what color your skin is AND that not all people hate other people simply because their skin or their culture differ from their own. As a Christian I am very sad to see how racism has effected my brothers and sisters. I am sad that we have to see a “rasist” around every corner and just assume that people are racist because their skin is white. We should see other Christians with many colors and cultures. Stop screaming “rasist” at each other and simply say “bror”. I see more racism becoming a problem each day simply because one side or the other cries “rasist” without even knowing the person they addressing. If you see a brother or sister acting in a racist way then by all means address it and speak to that person, privately. But stop crying wolf when there is no wolf.
    Love one another as Christ loved the church. That is all we need to remember when it comes to dealing with one another.

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